AS Mileage Plan and VX Elevate Speculation Thread [Consolidated]
Dec 9, 2016, 9:49 am
#61
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Dec 9, 2016, 7:48 pm
#62
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Yep, mostly debating on whether to fly LAX to the East Coast in 2017 on DAL/AA and credit miles to AS or VX.
Dec 9, 2016, 9:30 pm
#63
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My recollection from the AA/US merger (the only one of the big three which was a merger of non-partners), they had reciprocal FF earning (and burning, I think) in place almost immediately after the corporate merger closed. It was one of the first things to happen, presumably because it's relatively easy to add a new FF partner. Upgrades took a bit longer and had various stages of ugly kludges, but as noted, with VX's very different view of F, upgrades are less clear at best.
Dec 10, 2016, 1:41 am
#64
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Dec 10, 2016, 5:41 am
#65
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VX's revenue model is based on getting revenue for every seat in first. They only have 8 seats and if they give those away as free upgrades their yields which continue to decline due to competitive pressures and a weaker product on transcon flights will get even worse. Don't see free upgrades into F happening at VX. It will take AS a while to figure out what kind of transcon product VX will have going forward. Figuring out how to stop the falling yields will be more important than giving away F seats.
Dec 10, 2016, 10:23 pm
#66
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When would you guess that VX Elevate miles will either be closed or an option to transfer some miles to AS Mileage Plan will be possible?
a. February 2017
b. March 2017
c. April 2017
d. May 2017
e. August 2017
f. Nov 2017
g. never
a. February 2017
b. March 2017
c. April 2017
d. May 2017
e. August 2017
f. Nov 2017
g. never
Dec 15, 2016, 8:12 am
#67
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Got an email this morning from Citi indicating that VX is ceasing to be a Citi ThankYou transfer partner as of January 22, 2017.
Dec 15, 2016, 8:49 am
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These sorts of things are why I've never been impressed with speculative points strategy that depend on things like favorable transfer ratios (that aren't announced yet).
Dec 15, 2016, 10:42 am
#69
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Since I'm in the frequent flyer program of both airlines I received two separate emails from Brad Tilden yesterday. Much of it was the same. But I did notice that in the VA Elevate email it specifically mentioned a status match for their elite members in Mileage Plan. But I did not see the same language in the Alaska email. Does anyone know if Alaska elites will receive a status match on VA?
Dec 15, 2016, 10:48 am
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Since I'm in the frequent flyer program of both airlines I received two separate emails from Brad Tilden yesterday. Much of it was the same. But I did notice that in the VA Elevate email it specifically mentioned a status match for their elite members in Mileage Plan. But I did not see the same language in the Alaska email. Does anyone know if Alaska elites will receive a status match on VA?
Dec 15, 2016, 11:03 am
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Dec 15, 2016, 11:16 am
#72
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+1....AS elites (so far) will be getting next to nothing on VX....for example, without at least a match to VX Silver, we will be paying for our bags when flying VX and sitting in the back of the plane (no preferred seating at all). For now and the foreseeable future, flying VX is not going to be an option I'd consider. On DL, we at least get access to the exit rows at booking and the slim possibility of an upgrade.
Dec 15, 2016, 11:19 am
#73
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+1....AS elites (so far) will be getting next to nothing on VX....for example, without at least a match to VX Silver, we will be paying for our bags when flying VX and sitting in the back of the plane (no preferred seating at all). For now and the foreseeable future, flying VX is not going to be an option I'd consider.
Dec 15, 2016, 11:39 am
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Dec 15, 2016, 11:48 am
#75
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I certainly hope that those who agree that AS status should be matched to VX will share their strong opinions with Mileage Plan.