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What Could be Next After EK? [Award changes]

What Could be Next After EK? [Award changes]

Old Apr 2, 2016, 7:35 pm
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What Could be Next After EK? [Award changes]

Is anyone else as scared as me that AS will devalue their award chart significantly more, specifically the Cathay awards?

I hope I'm wrong, but Ive always defended Alaska (esp against DL) as the good guys, but after what they did in the dead of night for EK awards I'm getting more pessimistic about the airline and their MileagePlan program as the days go by.
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Old Apr 4, 2016, 12:34 am
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There was a ton of discussion in this thread about bloggers. That discussion has all been moved to a forum where that subject is on-topic: the External Miles & Points Resources forum. It can be viewed here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/exter...valuation.html

Let's keep this thread on-topic for the OP's actual question about (speculative) future devaluations of AS miles. Please direct all discussion about the effect of bloggers on the program over in the above-linked thread.

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Old Apr 4, 2016, 12:45 am
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The obvious ones would be AA (to match their current chart) and CX.

HU doesn't look too ridiculous given their cheap J sales (this will probably where I'll end up if CX/AA go into the stratosphere). KE and BA are pretty pricey already. DL/KL/AF seem to be market priced.
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Old Apr 4, 2016, 3:10 am
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CX for sure no doubt. Then QF just for good measure.

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Old Apr 6, 2016, 4:33 am
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From what I read, it was my understanding the de-valuation was EK complaining to AS that too many AS members were redeeming F on EK flights. So it wasn't AS who wanted to devaluation. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably won't do anymore huge devaluation unless otherwise pressured. Their stellar MileagePlan program is what is keeping them competitive after all.
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by Edgerfly
From what I read, it was my understanding the de-valuation was EK complaining to AS that too many AS members were redeeming F on EK flights. So it wasn't AS who wanted to devaluation. If I had to guess, I'd say they probably won't do anymore huge devaluation unless otherwise pressured. Their stellar MileagePlan program is what is keeping them competitive after all.
Earn your miles and spend them. Some of us have been caught with large balances that could not be reasonably burned prior to changes, even when announced. Redemption cost does not go down.
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 3:00 pm
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Never thought I'd be saying this ..but yay for the BA YQ charges. Yeah ...it's several hundred bucks each way in J or F ...but ...given the amount of availability, there is probably little incentive to raise the chart.
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by flytoeat
Earn your miles and spend them. Some of us have been caught with large balances that could not be reasonably burned prior to changes, even when announced. Redemption cost does not go down.
Easier said than done. Finding awards with the AS program is not an easy proposition.
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by ou81two
Easier said than done. Finding awards with the AS program is not an easy proposition.
I always use the BA award tool to search BA and CX, and then call AS to book.
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Originally Posted by ou81two
Easier said than done. Finding awards with the AS program is not an easy proposition.
Hasn't been too difficult for me. CX F was lovely. Looking forward to BA F in a couple months.
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Old Apr 6, 2016, 10:23 pm
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I am worried this is a sign for the future. The leverage of the partnership will probably be weighed against Alaska in most situations. Alaska needs these partners more than the partners need Alaska. As a result, it's a one sided negotiation when it comes to the partners. Lather, rinse, repeat sadly.
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Old Apr 7, 2016, 9:16 pm
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Originally Posted by worldtraveller73
I am worried this is a sign for the future. The leverage of the partnership will probably be weighed against Alaska in most situations. Alaska needs these partners more than the partners need Alaska. As a result, it's a one sided negotiation when it comes to the partners. Lather, rinse, repeat sadly.
Meanwhile, AS doesn't have the decency to lower Icelandair awards. Saga Class US-KEF is 50,000 miles one-way for a domestic F seat without even a leg rest, beyond absurd.
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Old Apr 8, 2016, 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by fly747first
Meanwhile, AS doesn't have the decency to lower Icelandair awards. Saga Class US-KEF is 50,000 miles one-way for a domestic F seat without even a leg rest, beyond absurd.
Nobody is forcing you to redeem it.
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Old Apr 9, 2016, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by Edgerfly
Nobody is forcing you to redeem it.
I would never, as that would be a complete waste, but my whole points is that AS' excuse is quite bogus because they have other awards that are highly overpriced.
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Old Apr 9, 2016, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by AKSteveB
Never thought I'd be saying this ..but yay for the BA YQ charges. Yeah ...it's several hundred bucks each way in J or F ...but ...given the amount of availability, there is probably little incentive to raise the chart.
LOL...right, the irony! Plenty of F availability for multiple seats on all sorts of trans Atlantic flights!
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