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#272
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Anchorage, AK
Programs: Lifetime AS 1MM & MVPG, AS MVPG75K, AA, DL, HH-G
Posts: 7,566
#273
#274
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: ANC
Programs: AS MVP Gold; Hyatt; Hilton; SPG
Posts: 1,716
I talked to the FA's in the back (I was in 9D) and they told me a few things about what to expect. The first plane will be delivered on 9/24. The E+ seats will be a different color than Y seats (light tan headrests?), the drinks will be complimentary for Golds and 75K's, not just the first one. There will be a different snack box option in E+.
All 800's should be converted by the end of the year. The 900's will change out by the end of Q1 2017.
The FA seemed to be aware of what is coming but as always YMMV
All 800's should be converted by the end of the year. The 900's will change out by the end of Q1 2017.
The FA seemed to be aware of what is coming but as always YMMV
Suggestion: As the roll-out begins, how about adding a tail number section to the wiki for this thread? It would help us track which aircraft have or have not been reconfigured.
#277
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
Programs: AS 75K,UA Gold 1.6MM, Hilton Dia, Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Glb, Natl Exec, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,657
Looking back at the investor presentation it said:
Target 75 aircraft complete by EOY 2016
Another 90 aircraft complete by EOY 2017 (to total of 165)
737-800 : rows 6-10
737-900 : rows 6-9
E-175s : ?
Note it appears exit rows are not considered part of premium economy judging by the seat map. So would this still be "preferred seating" but without the other premium benefits?
Target 75 aircraft complete by EOY 2016
Another 90 aircraft complete by EOY 2017 (to total of 165)
737-800 : rows 6-10
737-900 : rows 6-9
E-175s : ?
Note it appears exit rows are not considered part of premium economy judging by the seat map. So would this still be "preferred seating" but without the other premium benefits?
#278
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: UA *G, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 949
Well at Alaska, currently the preferred plus seats are free and open for selection from time of booking for all Alaska elites. Even Delta elites and AA elites (Platinum & EXP) can choose seats after entering FF#. As you can see, clearly Alaska is the most generous! Time will tell if this benefit changes with the introduction of "premium economy"
Maybe I'm missing something obvious here but this seems confusing to me.
#279
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,033
Looking back at the investor presentation it said:
Target 75 aircraft complete by EOY 2016
Another 90 aircraft complete by EOY 2017 (to total of 165)
737-800 : rows 6-10
737-900 : rows 6-9
E-175s : ?
Note it appears exit rows are not considered part of premium economy judging by the seat map. So would this still be "preferred seating" but without the other premium benefits?
Target 75 aircraft complete by EOY 2016
Another 90 aircraft complete by EOY 2017 (to total of 165)
737-800 : rows 6-10
737-900 : rows 6-9
E-175s : ?
Note it appears exit rows are not considered part of premium economy judging by the seat map. So would this still be "preferred seating" but without the other premium benefits?
#280
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SEA
Programs: AS Mileage Plan; HHonors Gold; NEXUS
Posts: 561
I just noticed something interesting... if I look at the seat selection for a flight I've booked for November (AS 680), rows 11, 12, 13, and 14 are gone from the map. Looking at that investor report, it would seem like they might be trying to shift everyone back by a few rows by removing the first set of rows directly behind premium economy. The flight back on the 900 has rows 13 and 14 missing.
My flight a week later to EWR (and return from PHL) do NOT have this adjustment.
My flight a week later to EWR (and return from PHL) do NOT have this adjustment.
#281
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,033
I just noticed something interesting... if I look at the seat selection for a flight I've booked for November (AS 680), rows 11, 12, 13, and 14 are gone from the map. Looking at that investor report, it would seem like they might be trying to shift everyone back by a few rows by removing the first set of rows directly behind premium economy. The flight back on the 900 has rows 13 and 14 missing.
My flight a week later to EWR (and return from PHL) do NOT have this adjustment.
My flight a week later to EWR (and return from PHL) do NOT have this adjustment.
#282
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,105
I just noticed something interesting... if I look at the seat selection for a flight I've booked for November (AS 680), rows 11, 12, 13, and 14 are gone from the map. Looking at that investor report, it would seem like they might be trying to shift everyone back by a few rows by removing the first set of rows directly behind premium economy. The flight back on the 900 has rows 13 and 14 missing.
That way they can consistently announce that those in the exit rows can board early, by naming the exit row numbers. (Of course, that boarding order may change a bit once PE is in place.)
#283
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bay Area, CA
Programs: UA Plat 2MM; AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 34,985
Alaska wants to have consistent exit row numbers no matter which type of 737 plane it is and no matter which configuration in front of the exit rows. So as they space rows up front wider apart (whether in F and/or PE) , they have to get rid of some row numbers right behind PE but before the exit rows so that it all ends up at the desired row numbers when they get to the exit rows.
That way they can consistently announce that those in the exit rows can board early, by naming the exit row numbers. (Of course, that boarding order may change a bit once PE is in place.)
That way they can consistently announce that those in the exit rows can board early, by naming the exit row numbers. (Of course, that boarding order may change a bit once PE is in place.)
#284
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SEA
Programs: Alaska Million Mile Flyer, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 3,098
Of course, this exit row consistency breaks down a little bit on the -700. Even though the exit rows are numbered the same, there is no extra pitch in these particular rows 16 and 17, unless you happen to be in 17A or 17F and there's no seat in front of you. But the thought is nice.
#285
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: EUG
Programs: BonVoy Pt, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred, *$ Au
Posts: 5,058
This has changed in the last six months? Because before, Row 6 and the exit rows (Preferred Plus) were boarded after MVPs and before the back half of economy on every flight I was on.