Alaska to Take First 737 MAX Delivery - First Flights in March 2021
Mar 12, 2019, 9:09 am
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I was trying to find out when Alaska is taking first delivery of the Max in this thread but it wasn't clear except in the title. I see from browsing news reports that it is now planned for mid-2019? (Maybe another title update to the thread warranted).
Mar 12, 2019, 9:32 am
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AS MAX9 inaugurals are currently scheduled for July 15th - AS312 (lv SEA 1100 arr 1400 LAX) and AS461 (lv LAX 1505 arr 1755 SEA)
Mar 12, 2019, 10:10 am
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Mar 12, 2019, 10:36 am
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When the schedule is updated to indicate the new equipment type. With only a few MAX 9s in the fleet as of this summer, aircraft will shift around quite a bit.
Mar 14, 2019, 1:51 pm
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Mar 14, 2019, 2:32 pm
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Mar 14, 2019, 2:35 pm
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Mar 14, 2019, 2:42 pm
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I'm sure the fix will apply to the 2nd crash as well (assuming it was MCAS related as everyone seems to be doing now). I read some in AvWeek about what the fix entails. Once they have the data from the FDR, they should be able to have a good idea of what the computer logic was doing and if the fix would have prevented it. Proving it to the FAA is the long lead time.
Maybe Alaska can take some early deliveries then?
I wonder if Boeing can get authorization to fly them out of Renton? News reports are wondering how much parking space they have there...
Maybe Alaska can take some early deliveries then?
I wonder if Boeing can get authorization to fly them out of Renton? News reports are wondering how much parking space they have there...
Mar 14, 2019, 3:20 pm
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Carriers were allowed to fly their planes back from outstations after the grounding was announced, so there's some allowance, though I'm not sure if the ban just doesn't apply to ferry flights or if they'll need FAA approval first.
Mar 15, 2019, 12:56 pm
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I believe that Boeing has announced the holding back of all MAX deliveries until the fix is found and implemented.
Mar 15, 2019, 1:05 pm
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How many is Alaska planning to get in 2019?
Mar 15, 2019, 2:16 pm
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-max-9-448357/
Alaska has taken 3 737-900s in 2019. There is one remaining 737-900ER order left unfilled.
Boeing: Commercial
7-3-1=Three 737 Max 9s scheduled to be delivered in July and after for 2019.
It has cut 2019 deliveries in half to 12 aircraft - one Airbus A321neo, seven 737s and four Embraer 175s - from the 24 that were scheduled at the end of 2017.
Boeing: Commercial
7-3-1=Three 737 Max 9s scheduled to be delivered in July and after for 2019.
Mar 21, 2019, 8:15 am
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Two 737 Max "Safety Options": Did AS Choose Them?
This NY Times article (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/business/boeing-safety-features-charge.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgty pe=Homepage) reports that certain safety features on Boeing's 737 Max aircraft are extra cost options:
"Incorporating the disagree light and the angle of attack indicators on all planes would be a welcome move, safety experts said, and would alert pilots — as well as maintenance staff who service a plane after a problematic flight — to issues with the sensors.
The alert, especially, would bring attention to a sensor malfunction, and warn pilots they should prepare to shut down the MCAS if it activated erroneously, said Peter Lemme, an avionics and satellite-communications consultant and former Boeing flight controls engineer.
“In the heat of the moment, it certainly would help,” he said."
So, Alaska, do your 737 Max 9 aircraft have these two safety options?
- Angle of attack indicator (which displays the readings of the two vanelike devices called angle of attack sensors that determine how much the plane’s nose is pointing up or down relative to oncoming air), and
- A disagree light, is activated if those sensors are at odds with one another.
"Incorporating the disagree light and the angle of attack indicators on all planes would be a welcome move, safety experts said, and would alert pilots — as well as maintenance staff who service a plane after a problematic flight — to issues with the sensors.
The alert, especially, would bring attention to a sensor malfunction, and warn pilots they should prepare to shut down the MCAS if it activated erroneously, said Peter Lemme, an avionics and satellite-communications consultant and former Boeing flight controls engineer.
“In the heat of the moment, it certainly would help,” he said."
So, Alaska, do your 737 Max 9 aircraft have these two safety options?
Mar 21, 2019, 12:46 pm
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This NY Times article (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/b...gtype=Homepage) reports that certain safety features on Boeing's 737 Max aircraft are extra cost options:
"Incorporating the disagree light and the angle of attack indicators on all planes would be a welcome move, safety experts said, and would alert pilots — as well as maintenance staff who service a plane after a problematic flight — to issues with the sensors.
The alert, especially, would bring attention to a sensor malfunction, and warn pilots they should prepare to shut down the MCAS if it activated erroneously, said Peter Lemme, an avionics and satellite-communications consultant and former Boeing flight controls engineer.
“In the heat of the moment, it certainly would help,” he said."
So, Alaska, do your 737 Max 9 aircraft have these two safety options?
- Angle of attack indicator (which displays the readings of the two vanelike devices called angle of attack sensors that determine how much the plane’s nose is pointing up or down relative to oncoming air), and
- A disagree light, is activated if those sensors are at odds with one another.
"Incorporating the disagree light and the angle of attack indicators on all planes would be a welcome move, safety experts said, and would alert pilots — as well as maintenance staff who service a plane after a problematic flight — to issues with the sensors.
The alert, especially, would bring attention to a sensor malfunction, and warn pilots they should prepare to shut down the MCAS if it activated erroneously, said Peter Lemme, an avionics and satellite-communications consultant and former Boeing flight controls engineer.
“In the heat of the moment, it certainly would help,” he said."
So, Alaska, do your 737 Max 9 aircraft have these two safety options?
Mar 21, 2019, 1:03 pm
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The current AS NGs don't have the AOA indicator on the PFDs. No clue if it shows on the HUD. I'd guess with the MAX 9s will have it on the PFD and HUD.
I believe American is the only airline that has the AOA indicator on all their Boeing planes. Not sure if Southwest is displaying it now on the PFDs, but it's on the HUDs for sure. Pilots love it from what I hear. Extra situational awareness is always good as they say...
And the "AOA Disagree" warning should be standard once Boeing gets the fix through.
I believe American is the only airline that has the AOA indicator on all their Boeing planes. Not sure if Southwest is displaying it now on the PFDs, but it's on the HUDs for sure. Pilots love it from what I hear. Extra situational awareness is always good as they say...
And the "AOA Disagree" warning should be standard once Boeing gets the fix through.