Give Alaska Airlines The Finger!
Oct 10, 2014, 7:15 am
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Give Alaska Airlines The Finger!
From The Street
Alaska Airlines Pushes for Fingerprint Scanning at Check-in
The sixth largest airline in the U.S. is pushing for shorter lines at the airport by scanning your fingerprint. It wants to replace travel documents like passport and driver's license to let flyers get through check-in quicker.
Alaska Airlines Pushes for Fingerprint Scanning at Check-in
The sixth largest airline in the U.S. is pushing for shorter lines at the airport by scanning your fingerprint. It wants to replace travel documents like passport and driver's license to let flyers get through check-in quicker.
Oct 10, 2014, 9:15 am
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Already rolling out for Board Rooms
I believe that they are already using this for expedited Board Room entry. At least, they are pressuring you to sign up for this 'feature'.
Last edited by flywobin; Oct 10, 2014 at 9:15 am Reason: spelling
Oct 10, 2014, 9:21 am
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And you're Canadian, probably limited to US citizens...
Oct 10, 2014, 9:44 am
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Alaska Airlines advocates fingerprint check-in would have been much more descriptive as a thread title.
http://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules.php#threadtitles
http://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules.php#threadtitles
Oct 10, 2014, 12:02 pm
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We had this when I worked at American Express in lower Manhanttan, post-9/11. AmEx had zero of our fingerprints, it was literally tied to our ID, which was managed "blindly" and not something where they "had our fingerprint" and were able to tie it to us in the HR department, or something else. Everyone had EXACTLY this question/reaction. It was, honestly, mega fast.
Oct 10, 2014, 12:05 pm
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Yes the BR has had this- haven't seen anyone use it though...
Yes the BR has had this- haven't seen anyone use it though...
Oct 10, 2014, 12:23 pm
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Does the TSA agree with this ? They usually need a document for their own purposes anyway...
(edit) Also, these fingerprint scanners are fooled at one point or another anyway. See Mythbusters for a classic attempt. Two factor (fingerprint+pin) is also no good considering you may give that pin to someone, or they just use the traditional methods of finding it out.
(edit) Also, these fingerprint scanners are fooled at one point or another anyway. See Mythbusters for a classic attempt. Two factor (fingerprint+pin) is also no good considering you may give that pin to someone, or they just use the traditional methods of finding it out.
Last edited by Spoddy; Oct 10, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Oct 10, 2014, 12:45 pm
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Biometrics are the future, yes, but not a next-Monday option. I'm not going to be any company's beta tester for bio data security while the biggest corporate names in the country are losing peoples' credit card info every week by the tens of millions. This ain't ready for prime time.
Oct 10, 2014, 1:00 pm
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Totally ridiculous idea. They say it will "save time at check-in". How? When I go through TSA the amount of time devoted to checking my ID is measured in milli-seconds. The same for check-in at ticket counter. For kiosk check-in, I don't show an ID anyway.
If Alaska really wanted to make check-in faster, they could eliminate checked-baggage charges for the first and second bag. That would reduce the time for each check-in by a couple of minutes.
And, of course, if the computer system goes down, everything will come to a complete stop as there is no way to check a fingerprint without a scanner.
If Alaska really wanted to make check-in faster, they could eliminate checked-baggage charges for the first and second bag. That would reduce the time for each check-in by a couple of minutes.
And, of course, if the computer system goes down, everything will come to a complete stop as there is no way to check a fingerprint without a scanner.
Oct 10, 2014, 2:55 pm
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From The Street
Alaska Airlines Pushes for Fingerprint Scanning at Check-in
The sixth largest airline in the U.S. is pushing for shorter lines at the airport by scanning your fingerprint. It wants to replace travel documents like passport and driver's license to let flyers get through check-in quicker.
Alaska Airlines Pushes for Fingerprint Scanning at Check-in
The sixth largest airline in the U.S. is pushing for shorter lines at the airport by scanning your fingerprint. It wants to replace travel documents like passport and driver's license to let flyers get through check-in quicker.
And for the people who cry foul that the government(s) around the world shouldn't have your fingerprints: The average person leaves a ridiculous amount of DNA and print trace everywhere you go.
Oct 10, 2014, 8:05 pm
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The devil is in the details. Since 2005, Disney has been using fingerprint scanners at their theme parks. I've yet to hear about anything nefarious transpiring because a private company has access to fingerprints. Given the hyper-litigious nature of our society (and Disney's deep pockets), I'm certain there would a massive lawsuit if something had happened.
The reality is that Disney doesn't actually save fingerprint images. Rather, they save a mathematical construct based on a set number of data points. Even if the encryption could be cracked, it can't be used to re-create a full fingerprint because only a portion of the print was captured when initially entered.
The reality is that Disney doesn't actually save fingerprint images. Rather, they save a mathematical construct based on a set number of data points. Even if the encryption could be cracked, it can't be used to re-create a full fingerprint because only a portion of the print was captured when initially entered.
Oct 10, 2014, 8:24 pm
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We had this when I worked at American Express in lower Manhanttan, post-9/11. AmEx had zero of our fingerprints, it was literally tied to our ID, which was managed "blindly" and not something where they "had our fingerprint" and were able to tie it to us in the HR department, or something else. Everyone had EXACTLY this question/reaction. It was, honestly, mega fast.
And, of course, if the computer system goes down, everything will come to a complete stop