AA to DL: We can play your game too...
Apr 2, 2014, 5:27 am
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Looks like AA has added their code to a handful of ASflights - they used to have their code on just 2 JNU/SEA flights, now it appears to be on all of the nonstops.
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Its VERY safe to say that American is now stepping up to take over as much of the AS/DL connecting business as they can.
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Its VERY safe to say that American is now stepping up to take over as much of the AS/DL connecting business as they can.
Apr 2, 2014, 8:30 am
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It would seem AA is indeed cozying up to AS...
They can't take over very much. DL had a significant longhaul presence in SEA and PDX before the recent unpleasantness started. AA is pathetic in SEA and PDX (behind even UA- *A has lots of traffic in SEA, OW has BA, no CX, no QF, no AA longhaul, no JL), and the one place where they could route into AS's network is someplace AS has de-emphasized over the years, LAX. US gives them nothing for that- if anything, there's an argument to be made that instead of codesharing on AS's Mexico flights AA should instead be flowing Mexico-bound connecting traffic to PHX instead of LAX.
They can't take over very much. DL had a significant longhaul presence in SEA and PDX before the recent unpleasantness started. AA is pathetic in SEA and PDX (behind even UA- *A has lots of traffic in SEA, OW has BA, no CX, no QF, no AA longhaul, no JL), and the one place where they could route into AS's network is someplace AS has de-emphasized over the years, LAX. US gives them nothing for that- if anything, there's an argument to be made that instead of codesharing on AS's Mexico flights AA should instead be flowing Mexico-bound connecting traffic to PHX instead of LAX.
Apr 2, 2014, 8:33 am
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It would seem AA is indeed cozying up to AS...
They can't take over very much. DL had a significant longhaul presence in SEA and PDX before the recent unpleasantness started. AA is pathetic in SEA and PDX (behind even UA- *A has lots of traffic in SEA, OW has BA, no CX, no QF, no AA longhaul, no JL), and the one place where they could route into AS's network is someplace AS has de-emphasized over the years, LAX. US gives them nothing for that- if anything, there's an argument to be made that instead of codesharing on AS's Mexico flights AA should instead be flowing Mexico-bound connecting traffic to PHX instead of LAX.
They can't take over very much. DL had a significant longhaul presence in SEA and PDX before the recent unpleasantness started. AA is pathetic in SEA and PDX (behind even UA- *A has lots of traffic in SEA, OW has BA, no CX, no QF, no AA longhaul, no JL), and the one place where they could route into AS's network is someplace AS has de-emphasized over the years, LAX. US gives them nothing for that- if anything, there's an argument to be made that instead of codesharing on AS's Mexico flights AA should instead be flowing Mexico-bound connecting traffic to PHX instead of LAX.
We don’t have that in oneworld. Any airline in oneworld can partner with any other airline. We have the flexibility to pursue other opportunities, but Star and SkyTeam have much stricter limits on the level of cooperation that can occur with carriers outside of the alliance. We think that’s one of the benefits of oneworld. We think it’s important that carriers have flexibility to partner with carriers that are important to their network, to generate the economics required to make the airline work and give customers what they want.
Apr 2, 2014, 8:39 am
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Apr 2, 2014, 8:42 am
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Apr 2, 2014, 9:13 am
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AS has almost twice as many boardings as AM, and nearly as many as AC had in the late 2000's. AC and AM are in alliances...
Apr 2, 2014, 11:00 am
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AS has almost twice as many boardings as AM, and nearly as many as AC had in the late 2000's. AC and AM are in alliances...
