Same Day Confirmed Change (SDC)
#481
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,135
SDCs and Upgrade Waitlists
Waitlists are processed by Status level, Fare class, then Date/Time of purchase.
If I SDC to a later flight, my Status level and Fare class will obviously transfer as is.
But which will be counted as my Date/Time? When I booked the original itinerary (probably), or when I SDCd onto the new flight (I hope not)?
Just hoping to increase UG odds this weekend for me +1. Our current flight has almost no FC seats open. The next one that day still has plenty.
Waitlists are processed by Status level, Fare class, then Date/Time of purchase.
If I SDC to a later flight, my Status level and Fare class will obviously transfer as is.
But which will be counted as my Date/Time? When I booked the original itinerary (probably), or when I SDCd onto the new flight (I hope not)?
Just hoping to increase UG odds this weekend for me +1. Our current flight has almost no FC seats open. The next one that day still has plenty.
Last edited by dayone; Jul 2, 2022 at 2:17 pm Reason: Fix Quote Syntax
#482
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
Programs: AS MVPG | oneworld Sapphire
Posts: 578
Ah, the old adage still holds true. Never assume. It might still be worth the relative "risk" in this case, though. Much obliged!
Last edited by Ford Fairlane; Jun 30, 2022 at 8:48 pm Reason: Forum code didn't like my breaking up 'assume' with slashes.
#483
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: LAX/ONT
Programs: AS 100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Marriott G, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 518
Just a word of caution using SDC, flights are filling up, even for LAX-SFO where there are many flights but SDC options are very limited, especially for peak travel days. For my past Hawaii routes out of LA or San Diego or transcon for the first half of the year, I have never seen an option in the app. Didn't bother to call.
I am glad flightpass saves me a ton by allowing me to select a time I like, otherwise, I will get stuck with a 6 am departure or 10/11 pm arrival.
I am glad flightpass saves me a ton by allowing me to select a time I like, otherwise, I will get stuck with a 6 am departure or 10/11 pm arrival.
#484
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,135
Just a word of caution using SDC, flights are filling up, even for LAX-SFO where there are many flights but SDC options are very limited, especially for peak travel days. For my past Hawaii routes out of LA or San Diego or transcon for the first half of the year, I have never seen an option in the app. Didn't bother to call.
I am glad flightpass saves me a ton by allowing me to select a time I like, otherwise, I will get stuck with a 6 am departure or 10/11 pm arrival.
I am glad flightpass saves me a ton by allowing me to select a time I like, otherwise, I will get stuck with a 6 am departure or 10/11 pm arrival.
#485
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AS 75K, BW Plat, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 10,721
100% agree here. I have switched to a 'book what I will survive with and hope for a better flight option', but on some of those days the flights have been 100% full. It's also been a little frustrating when my plans have changed and I need to leave later or earlier and I can't even buy a ticket (let alone SDC). Granted, I can attempt a SDC Standby, but I cannot wait for the peak season to be over. 🤙🏻🍹
#486
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
Programs: AS MVPG | oneworld Sapphire
Posts: 578
Just a word of caution using SDC, flights are filling up, even for LAX-SFO where there are many flights but SDC options are very limited, especially for peak travel days. For my past Hawaii routes out of LA or San Diego or transcon for the first half of the year, I have never seen an option in the app. Didn't bother to call.
I am glad flightpass saves me a ton by allowing me to select a time I like, otherwise, I will get stuck with a 6 am departure or 10/11 pm arrival.
I am glad flightpass saves me a ton by allowing me to select a time I like, otherwise, I will get stuck with a 6 am departure or 10/11 pm arrival.
Still quite happy for the later flight in this case, which it sounds like we might have been lucky to get, so no real complaints.
Last edited by Ford Fairlane; Jul 2, 2022 at 11:18 pm Reason: punc. error. -2, per 3rd grade English teacher Mrs. Engels
#487
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
We were able to SDC into the later flight, grab the last 2 adjacent, PE seats, and went to #1and #2 on the waitlist. However, because an overnight change in metal cut the total number of FC seats by 4, there's just one left.
Still quite happy for the later flight in this case, which it sounds like we might have been lucky to get, so no real complaints.
Still quite happy for the later flight in this case, which it sounds like we might have been lucky to get, so no real complaints.
AA has been proactive in splitting a PNR and upgrading only one of the passengers. Although, that may no be favourable for some who prefer to be together in either cabin.
On my last SDC, no companion, I purchased the first SEA-PHX flight of the day within 24 hours of departure, which I couldn't fly because I was still in JFK. The flight was significantly cheaper. Once purchased, I did OLCI and did the SDC during the check-in process. It allowed me to change to standby on a full flight. No seats to choose from. I was on the awaiting seats list. At the gate, there was one F seat still available. I was next to be upgraded even though I wasn't on the upgrade waitlist. Gate agent processed the upgrade, provided my F boarding pass and the awaiting seats list updated to reflect I had been assigned a seat with the F seat number.
I have also done a SDC and was upgraded on the way to the gate, never having appeared on the waitlist.
From those and other same day changes I have done as well as changes on the day of, I am not convinced time on the waitlist resets. Any changes prior to the day of travel do, in my experience, appear to reset.
James
#488
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
Programs: AS MVPG | oneworld Sapphire
Posts: 578
If we are #1 & #2 on the waitlist on a PNR with a companion, I always speak to the gate agent and let them know we would be happy to split the PNR should only one F seat become available. We have never been skipped in that scenario even when traveling on a companion certificate....
While it's possible that there are no other 100Ks on our flight tomorrow, given the day and route (03 JUL, SEA/SAN), that would surprise me quite a bit. But for the record, FC filled completely within an hour of check-in for that flight. I didn't get a screenshot of the Waitlist before, so I don't know if #3 leapfrogged us or someone else bought into that last seat. All good by me. Just glad to be departing later. That means not having to wake so early and getting to have lunch instead of breakfast in the N lounge. And IIRC, I chose the earlier flight instead of the SDC flight because it cost less at the time. Nice start to my two-week birthday party. 29 again (and again and again ad infinitum ).
#490
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
#491
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Eastern Shore of Lake Michigan; Formerly SEA
Programs: AS MVPG | oneworld Sapphire
Posts: 578
Not a SDC, but we got upgraded on our next segment too, on my actual bDay. UGd at checkin, #1 & 2 of 12 with 3 open seats at the time. Nonadjacent seats, so we weren't skipped over just because of that.
Now back to actual SDC discussions....
Now back to actual SDC discussions....
#492
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 12,591
Any experience with getting them to do an SDC when it's J2/Y0? I've already been upgraded for the flight that I want to change out of, and am likely to jump to top of the upgrade list for the flight I want to SDC to, but right now it's showing Y0. It's been showing J2/Y0 for a couple days. My plan is to check in then call and ask if they can do that, and if not, ask for an SDC that adds a leg through SEA.
#493
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
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I’d guess the techie answer is “if RM allows them to overbook” but a practical approach might be to wait until OLCI opens for the flight you want (when someone will be able to SDC off that flight)
#494
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,135
Any experience with getting them to do an SDC when it's J2/Y0? I've already been upgraded for the flight that I want to change out of, and am likely to jump to top of the upgrade list for the flight I want to SDC to, but right now it's showing Y0. It's been showing J2/Y0 for a couple days. My plan is to check in then call and ask if they can do that, and if not, ask for an SDC that adds a leg through SEA.
#495
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Any experience with getting them to do an SDC when it's J2/Y0? I've already been upgraded for the flight that I want to change out of, and am likely to jump to top of the upgrade list for the flight I want to SDC to, but right now it's showing Y0. It's been showing J2/Y0 for a couple days. My plan is to check in then call and ask if they can do that, and if not, ask for an SDC that adds a leg through SEA.
Changing to a connection isn't a SDC. You can change your itinerary online but it will be subject to a fare difference. AS may entertain doing a change to your itinerary on the same day for you without the fare difference but it isn't a SDC. The issue is that adding a segment adds a segment tax. If AS isn't collecting that, I am sure it is out of their pocket.
James