Aug 7, 2015, 8:58 am
Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Award Travel on Cathay Pacific
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
CX (Cathay) Award availability
Jan 13, 2016, 8:22 pm
#1111
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
Jamie has given the good advice.
I would add that, you can call CX to get the Row 11 for your daughter. Online it is blocked but calling in CX can assign it. I did this the past Sat on our flights where I am in F and husband in J. I got myself in 1A and him in 11A so it is easier for me to walk back to chat with him. No, he cannot walk up. CX is quite strict on that and for the right reasons. Though on the HKGA bound flight, there is some flexibility. You just need to play with ears and see if anything outside the norm could be accomplished. Just dont assume what you mentioned could be done.
Enjoy the trip.
I would add that, you can call CX to get the Row 11 for your daughter. Online it is blocked but calling in CX can assign it. I did this the past Sat on our flights where I am in F and husband in J. I got myself in 1A and him in 11A so it is easier for me to walk back to chat with him. No, he cannot walk up. CX is quite strict on that and for the right reasons. Though on the HKGA bound flight, there is some flexibility. You just need to play with ears and see if anything outside the norm could be accomplished. Just dont assume what you mentioned could be done.
Enjoy the trip.
Jan 13, 2016, 11:08 pm
#1112
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
I'm only an MVP, so I'll have to make due with paying the change fee--but at least $125 is a hell of a lot less than the cash price of J. But who knows, I might end up staying in Y+, at least if I end up making the stopover. I've done YVR-NRT in Y on AC and found it pretty tolerable for sleeping.
Jan 14, 2016, 3:49 am
#1113
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
Jamie has given the good advice.
I would add that, you can call CX to get the Row 11 for your daughter. Online it is blocked but calling in CX can assign it. I did this the past Sat on our flights where I am in F and husband in J. I got myself in 1A and him in 11A so it is easier for me to walk back to chat with him. No, he cannot walk up. CX is quite strict on that and for the right reasons. Though on the HKGA bound flight, there is some flexibility. You just need to play with ears and see if anything outside the norm could be accomplished. Just dont assume what you mentioned could be done.
Enjoy the trip.
I would add that, you can call CX to get the Row 11 for your daughter. Online it is blocked but calling in CX can assign it. I did this the past Sat on our flights where I am in F and husband in J. I got myself in 1A and him in 11A so it is easier for me to walk back to chat with him. No, he cannot walk up. CX is quite strict on that and for the right reasons. Though on the HKGA bound flight, there is some flexibility. You just need to play with ears and see if anything outside the norm could be accomplished. Just dont assume what you mentioned could be done.
Enjoy the trip.
Jan 14, 2016, 8:59 am
#1114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eastern Washington
Programs: AS MVPGold 75K
Posts: 81
I'm disappointed that you are encouraging the OP to try something that would infuriate the other F pax. I can't speak for others, but if I saw this permitted, the first phone call I'd make upon landing would be to CX management, doing my best to ensure the termination of the offending FAs.
I am glad I asked, thank you all for the input, I appreciate it. If I can't snag an award see in F for my daughter, I will not say anything and just pop back to see her once or twice. I certainly don't want to anger others or not follow proper etiquette.
Jan 14, 2016, 9:05 am
#1115
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern Calif./Eastern Ida.
Programs: Amethyst Premier Plutonium Medallion
Posts: 20,640
I'm disappointed that you are encouraging the OP to try something that would infuriate the other F pax. I can't speak for others, but if I saw this permitted, the first phone call I'd make upon landing would be to CX management, doing my best to ensure the termination of the offending FAs.
Jan 14, 2016, 10:03 am
#1116
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SEA
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 759
That being said, would having one J pax eat dinner in the F cabin really infuriate other people? I mean I guess it could lead to more talking than them not eating together, but unless you personally booked the other 5 seats there's a risk of two other F pax eating together and talking too.
(I'm assuming for the discussion that it could work to have the J pax eat J catered food and not the F stuff since that could actually have a direct impact)
Jan 14, 2016, 10:21 am
#1117
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
I assume it was the "on the HKGA bound flight, there is some flexibility" line.
That being said, would having one J pax eat dinner in the F cabin really infuriate other people? I mean I guess it could lead to more talking than them not eating together, but unless you personally booked the other 5 seats there's a risk of two other F pax eating together and talking too.
(I'm assuming for the discussion that it could work to have the J pax eat J catered food and not the F stuff since that could actually have a direct impact)
That being said, would having one J pax eat dinner in the F cabin really infuriate other people? I mean I guess it could lead to more talking than them not eating together, but unless you personally booked the other 5 seats there's a risk of two other F pax eating together and talking too.
(I'm assuming for the discussion that it could work to have the J pax eat J catered food and not the F stuff since that could actually have a direct impact)
But yes, it would infuriate ME. You're stealing (not YOU, personally). You're stealing time from the FAs, you're stealing space and atmosphere from the cabin, you're (potentially) stealing time in a lav you're not entitled to use. I see very little difference between having your J guest dine in F and you going into my wallet while I'm asleep.
But ignoring that, it is f-o-r-b-i-d-d-e-n.
Jan 14, 2016, 10:58 am
#1118
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
All that really matters is it is expressly forbidden, per CX crew that have opined on other threads
stealing time in a lav you're not entitled to use
you're stealing space and atmosphere from the cabin
on this most vile of topics.
Jan 14, 2016, 11:03 am
#1119
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
It is reprehensible to even consider a guest in F. It is a violation of policy. Should I use smaller words?
Jan 14, 2016, 11:13 am
#1120
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
I don't need to "let it go"--I wasn't arguing with you that it's not allowed. I'm saying that calling the very idea of a guest in F "vile" or "reprehensible" sounds a bit nutty.
Jan 14, 2016, 11:22 am
#1121
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
As an aside, my family had 4 of the 6 F seats on a recent CX flight, the other 2 were unoccupied. Never would I have dreamed of inviting up a friend, even though the entire cabin "belonged" to us. But, to the extent there are vacant seats and once service has ended (meaning, the aircraft is well into its decent), I don't mind if they complete the parties in F so that families can disembark together. Singapore, IIRC, even has a policy of doing this.
Jan 15, 2016, 1:17 am
#1122
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West Coast, USA
Programs: Skywards Platinum
Posts: 3,747
Understood. Just my opinion. There are some that believe stealing overhead space or putting bare feet on on a bulkhead is perfectly acceptable behaviour. I don't happen to agree.
As an aside, my family had 4 of the 6 F seats on a recent CX flight, the other 2 were unoccupied. Never would I have dreamed of inviting up a friend, even though the entire cabin "belonged" to us. But, to the extent there are vacant seats and once service has ended (meaning, the aircraft is well into its decent), I don't mind if they complete the parties in F so that families can disembark together. Singapore, IIRC, even has a policy of doing this.
As an aside, my family had 4 of the 6 F seats on a recent CX flight, the other 2 were unoccupied. Never would I have dreamed of inviting up a friend, even though the entire cabin "belonged" to us. But, to the extent there are vacant seats and once service has ended (meaning, the aircraft is well into its decent), I don't mind if they complete the parties in F so that families can disembark together. Singapore, IIRC, even has a policy of doing this.
Can we all move on? This cabin invasion has nothing to do with award availability.
Jan 15, 2016, 6:58 am
#1123
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,536
I find it just as "vile" when I am in paid F and they op-up the peasants from J to F and invade "my" cabin. I find it just as "vile" when people in F are on mileage redemptions, invading my space when they can't afford to.
Can we all move on? This cabin invasion has nothing to do with award availability.
Can we all move on? This cabin invasion has nothing to do with award availability.
Ok, NOW I'll move on.
- Mr Classy
Jan 15, 2016, 6:35 pm
#1124
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
I'm disappointed that you are encouraging the OP to try something that would infuriate the other F pax. I can't speak for others, but if I saw this permitted, the first phone call I'd make upon landing would be to CX management, doing my best to ensure the termination of the offending FAs.
I assume it was the "on the HKG bound flight, there is some flexibility" line.
That being said, would having one J pax eat dinner in the F cabin really infuriate other people? I mean I guess it could lead to more talking than them not eating together, but unless you personally booked the other 5 seats there's a risk of two other F pax eating together and talking too.
(I'm assuming for the discussion that it could work to have the J pax eat J catered food and not the F stuff since that could actually have a direct impact)
That being said, would having one J pax eat dinner in the F cabin really infuriate other people? I mean I guess it could lead to more talking than them not eating together, but unless you personally booked the other 5 seats there's a risk of two other F pax eating together and talking too.
(I'm assuming for the discussion that it could work to have the J pax eat J catered food and not the F stuff since that could actually have a direct impact)
It is a bit of self-righteous to proclaim such would infuriate other F passengers. Most F passengers especially those who actually pay for the flight, could not care less as long as the "visits" were very discrete.
I find it just as "vile" when I am in paid F and they op-up the peasants from J to F and invade "my" cabin. I find it just as "vile" when people in F are on mileage redemptions, invading my space when they can't afford to.
Can we all move on? This cabin invasion has nothing to do with award availability.
Can we all move on? This cabin invasion has nothing to do with award availability.
Last edited by Happy; Jan 15, 2016 at 6:41 pm
Jan 16, 2016, 2:07 am
#1125
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: cbr
Programs: QF WP (OWE) / LTG (LT OWS) | Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 4,972
All that really matters is it is expressly forbidden, per CX crew that have opined on other threads on this most vile of topics.
But yes, it would infuriate ME. You're stealing (not YOU, personally). You're stealing time from the FAs, you're stealing space and atmosphere from the cabin, you're (potentially) stealing time in a lav you're not entitled to use. I see very little difference between having your J guest dine in F and you going into my wallet while I'm asleep.
But ignoring that, it is f-o-r-b-i-d-d-e-n.
But yes, it would infuriate ME. You're stealing (not YOU, personally). You're stealing time from the FAs, you're stealing space and atmosphere from the cabin, you're (potentially) stealing time in a lav you're not entitled to use. I see very little difference between having your J guest dine in F and you going into my wallet while I'm asleep.
But ignoring that, it is f-o-r-b-i-d-d-e-n.
Seriously dude, there's much bigger things to worry about in life than "time" being "stolen" from an FA in the F cabin. If that's the biggest thing stressing you out, then you should consider yourself lucky.