Aug 7, 2015, 8:58 am
Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Award Travel on Cathay Pacific
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
CX (Cathay) Award availability
Dec 1, 2015, 2:46 am
#1036
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HKG/ SIN
Posts: 203
Hi everyone!
Trying to book 2 CX J seats with Alaska Airlines miles.
Flight:
HKG-LHR in July 2016 on CX 239 (leaving HKG at 1220):
BA.com shows 4 seats but Alaska Airlines could only see 1. I booked that one but still looking for another one. BA.com shows 3 seats now but Alaska still can't see it.
What's going on?
Is this normal? Will CX release another seat to AS (if yes, when)? Or should I just bite the bullet and book the other seat with Asia Miles (which shows plenty space).
Sorry if this is a noob question. I did a lot of research and thought if it shows on BA, AS should be able to book it.
Thanks in advance!
Trying to book 2 CX J seats with Alaska Airlines miles.
Flight:
HKG-LHR in July 2016 on CX 239 (leaving HKG at 1220):
BA.com shows 4 seats but Alaska Airlines could only see 1. I booked that one but still looking for another one. BA.com shows 3 seats now but Alaska still can't see it.
What's going on?
Is this normal? Will CX release another seat to AS (if yes, when)? Or should I just bite the bullet and book the other seat with Asia Miles (which shows plenty space).
Sorry if this is a noob question. I did a lot of research and thought if it shows on BA, AS should be able to book it.
Thanks in advance!
Last edited by GwailoSIN; Dec 1, 2015 at 3:07 am
Dec 3, 2015, 1:40 pm
#1037
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,621
Hi -
Availability for both AA and AS is less than availability for BA and JL. And they are less than what Asia Miles shows.
Your choices re basically book Asia miles seat now, or book a seat in Y+ (the default class now for most AS redemptions) and wait until 24-48 hours to see if they release more seats. That would require paying a change fee. Or you can walk the high wire without a reservation and see if a seat opens up (and not pay a change fee).
Availability for both AA and AS is less than availability for BA and JL. And they are less than what Asia Miles shows.
Your choices re basically book Asia miles seat now, or book a seat in Y+ (the default class now for most AS redemptions) and wait until 24-48 hours to see if they release more seats. That would require paying a change fee. Or you can walk the high wire without a reservation and see if a seat opens up (and not pay a change fee).
Dec 3, 2015, 2:45 pm
#1038
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
Hi everyone!
Trying to book 2 CX J seats with Alaska Airlines miles.
Flight:
HKG-LHR in July 2016 on CX 239 (leaving HKG at 1220):
BA.com shows 4 seats but Alaska Airlines could only see 1. I booked that one but still looking for another one. BA.com shows 3 seats now but Alaska still can't see it.
What's going on?
Is this normal? Will CX release another seat to AS (if yes, when)? Or should I just bite the bullet and book the other seat with Asia Miles (which shows plenty space).
Sorry if this is a noob question. I did a lot of research and thought if it shows on BA, AS should be able to book it.
Thanks in advance!
Trying to book 2 CX J seats with Alaska Airlines miles.
Flight:
HKG-LHR in July 2016 on CX 239 (leaving HKG at 1220):
BA.com shows 4 seats but Alaska Airlines could only see 1. I booked that one but still looking for another one. BA.com shows 3 seats now but Alaska still can't see it.
What's going on?
Is this normal? Will CX release another seat to AS (if yes, when)? Or should I just bite the bullet and book the other seat with Asia Miles (which shows plenty space).
Sorry if this is a noob question. I did a lot of research and thought if it shows on BA, AS should be able to book it.
Thanks in advance!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25796586-post3937.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25800030-post3940.html
Is there a reason why you needed to ask the same question in two threads?
For that matter... why do we have two threads on booking CX using AS miles? I imagine that is part of the confusion...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alask...ska-miles.html
Dec 3, 2015, 9:19 pm
#1039
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: BOI
Posts: 223
Hi -
Availability for both AA and AS is less than availability for BA and JL. And they are less than what Asia Miles shows.
Your choices re basically book Asia miles seat now, or book a seat in Y+ (the default class now for most AS redemptions) and wait until 24-48 hours to see if they release more seats. That would require paying a change fee. Or you can walk the high wire without a reservation and see if a seat opens up (and not pay a change fee).
Availability for both AA and AS is less than availability for BA and JL. And they are less than what Asia Miles shows.
Your choices re basically book Asia miles seat now, or book a seat in Y+ (the default class now for most AS redemptions) and wait until 24-48 hours to see if they release more seats. That would require paying a change fee. Or you can walk the high wire without a reservation and see if a seat opens up (and not pay a change fee).
If BA still shows availability, call again. I have had this experience twice within the past three months. On both occasions, it took four phone calls, but both times I got my seats.
Dec 3, 2015, 9:59 pm
#1040
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,621
Hi -
My experience has been that 1 F award seat on BA.com does not show up for AS until 24-48 hours before departure. And 2 J seats.
Once you get to T-24/48, availability will open up provided they did not oversell Y and bump people up into Y+/J/F. SO if you have to be on a particular flight, you should book the Y+ seat that will probably be available, then pay a change fee (if you are not Gold) to upgrade your seat if it becomes available.
My last TPAC on CX I upgraded my seat 4 hours before departure. until then, no availability. All of a sudden, 5 J seats opened up.
My experience has been that 1 F award seat on BA.com does not show up for AS until 24-48 hours before departure. And 2 J seats.
Once you get to T-24/48, availability will open up provided they did not oversell Y and bump people up into Y+/J/F. SO if you have to be on a particular flight, you should book the Y+ seat that will probably be available, then pay a change fee (if you are not Gold) to upgrade your seat if it becomes available.
My last TPAC on CX I upgraded my seat 4 hours before departure. until then, no availability. All of a sudden, 5 J seats opened up.
Dec 5, 2015, 3:59 pm
#1041
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: yvr
Programs: cathay sl
Posts: 10
so I'm trying to figure out if this will work for me, I'm looking at booking Cathay J from YVR-JFK for May, when I go on the asia miles site to look for availability theres one seat available and the rest is waist list if I want 3 seats
Should I risk it and just buy the points and keep on hoping that more seats will open up come in the upcoming months. Last time I redeemed asia miles I did it in February and J seats were easy to come by.
Should I risk it and just buy the points and keep on hoping that more seats will open up come in the upcoming months. Last time I redeemed asia miles I did it in February and J seats were easy to come by.
Dec 5, 2015, 4:17 pm
#1042
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
so I'm trying to figure out if this will work for me, I'm looking at booking Cathay J from YVR-JFK for May, when I go on the asia miles site to look for availability theres one seat available and the rest is waist list if I want 3 seats
Should I risk it and just buy the points and keep on hoping that more seats will open up come in the upcoming months. Last time I redeemed asia miles I did it in February and J seats were easy to come by.
Should I risk it and just buy the points and keep on hoping that more seats will open up come in the upcoming months. Last time I redeemed asia miles I did it in February and J seats were easy to come by.
Dec 6, 2015, 9:28 am
#1043
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: yvr
Programs: cathay sl
Posts: 10
yes sorry, I should have made it clear I was looking at using Alaskapoints to book CX, I thought thats how you could look at availability to book. I guess I'll just call in and ask them for the dates to see if they have any for 3 seats in J for May!
Cheers
Cheers
Dec 6, 2015, 11:56 am
#1044
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Try BA or JL sites as Asia miles members have more availability than AS, AA and other partners do
Dec 6, 2015, 8:43 pm
#1045
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: yvr
Programs: cathay sl
Posts: 10
lol FML then, only one seat was available right now when I checked, I'll sign up for those sites then
thanks
thanks
Dec 12, 2015, 1:29 pm
#1046
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sunny Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K, HH Diamond
Posts: 539
JAL's partner search for members in the Americas is unavailable until late March 2016. No idea what they're doing that requires such a long outage.
Dec 14, 2015, 5:33 am
#1047
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 8,460
JAL's partner search for members in the Americas is unavailable until late March 2016. No idea what they're doing that requires such a long outage.
Dec 14, 2015, 10:24 am
#1048
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Metro DC
Programs: UA Plat, SPG Gold, HH Gold, Priority Club Platinum, Hertz #1 Gold Club
Posts: 291
As agent saying usa -eu stopover in hkg f on cx is 2 bookings at 140k total I thought it was free stopover for a total of 70k as.
Dec 14, 2015, 10:35 am
#1049
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 565
AS does not offer a US-Asia-EU award on Cathay. If you read the award chart, you will see there is a US-Asia Award on Cathay, then a HKG-EU award. So it is two separate awards.
Dec 14, 2015, 11:09 am
#1050
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Metro DC
Programs: UA Plat, SPG Gold, HH Gold, Priority Club Platinum, Hertz #1 Gold Club
Posts: 291
So how is it a stopover if its separate awards?