AS Predictions thread for 2011
#31
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,390
"Hi, Hunter this is Andrew. As it relates to the 8% to 9% growth, on average we have about 100 or so airplanes flying at any point in time so every point of growth is about one airplane. So if you round it to about eight airplanes 5.5 of those will be going to Hawaii and Mexico, the majority to Hawaii and then the other 2.5 aircrafts that are just spread around our system, We annualized the new St. Louis. So big picture really this is all the markets we’ve announced this year and carrying them over to next year plus the new Hawaii in the first quarter is basically makes up that entire growth.
So that airplanes work mostly in Hawaii and Mexico and we’ve been very pleased with the performance of those regions."
#32
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SEA, PAE, BLI
Programs: WN A-List Preferred, AS, DL Kryptonium
Posts: 1,604
Somewhat Likely
1. AS begins more SEA/PDX-DL Hub Routes, SLC being the most likely.
2. AS finds a way to get more 738 aircraft or seriously considers leasing another aircraft type.
3. DL dismantles Comair and sells its certificate to AAG for $1. In return, QX begins operations out of ATL as "Delta Horizon". AAG uses Comair's certificate for a new aircraft type.
4. AS Elite benefits, but not upgrades, come to AA in October. AS elites may be able to purchase upgrade stickers at the gate.
5. AS decides to rebrand QX operations with a name such as Western Connection operated by Horizon (Alaska Express or Alaska Connection would confuse infrequent flyers even more), but public backlash forces AS to keep the QX branding. In response, QX gets a Lewis and Clark-themed aircraft.
6. PNW (and CA) wines and microbrews remain free on QX.
7. Lemonade returns on summer flights and AS decides to do themed months for food/beverages since Hawaii month was well-received.
Unlikely
1. Mileage redemption on Allegiant.
2. The MD-80 returns in the form of ex-AA aircraft operated by AS crews. Tim is featured on one of the aircraft as a special livery.
3. DL sends out memos to staff stating that it is partners with Alaska Airlines, not "Alaskan Airlines."
1. AS begins more SEA/PDX-DL Hub Routes, SLC being the most likely.
2. AS finds a way to get more 738 aircraft or seriously considers leasing another aircraft type.
3. DL dismantles Comair and sells its certificate to AAG for $1. In return, QX begins operations out of ATL as "Delta Horizon". AAG uses Comair's certificate for a new aircraft type.
4. AS Elite benefits, but not upgrades, come to AA in October. AS elites may be able to purchase upgrade stickers at the gate.
5. AS decides to rebrand QX operations with a name such as Western Connection operated by Horizon (Alaska Express or Alaska Connection would confuse infrequent flyers even more), but public backlash forces AS to keep the QX branding. In response, QX gets a Lewis and Clark-themed aircraft.
6. PNW (and CA) wines and microbrews remain free on QX.
7. Lemonade returns on summer flights and AS decides to do themed months for food/beverages since Hawaii month was well-received.
Unlikely
1. Mileage redemption on Allegiant.
2. The MD-80 returns in the form of ex-AA aircraft operated by AS crews. Tim is featured on one of the aircraft as a special livery.
3. DL sends out memos to staff stating that it is partners with Alaska Airlines, not "Alaskan Airlines."
#33
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Programs: Alaska Gold 100k
Posts: 959
PDX/ONT/BUR and in the future PSP and maybe even PHX on somethng other than a 737 or Q400 that does not have propellers I do see (so why not keep the CR7?)
AS maybe try PDX/MCO again but not a redeye. I have to go there often and would not take a redeye. Also booking this one on AS (via SEA) from PDX is always way more than DL. Just booked today for February, was $780 on AS and $410 on DL so am on DL. Business folks wont take the redeye, and families dont like it either. Screaming kids dont sleep at night going down, cant check into hotel and then you have to get them up too early on the way back.
AS for 2011 please give PDX some (non QX) love!
#34
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Over the Bay Bridge, CA
Programs: Jumbo mas
Posts: 38,626
Likely - MVPGs are going to be pissed off that despite the promises of "no reduction of MVPG benefits," the # of 75Ks are going to materially diminish the benefits, even though the published benefits have not decreased.
#37
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: AA (PPro/3MM/Admirals Club), AS, UA, Marriott (Gold), HHonors (Gold), Accor (Plat)
Posts: 2,602
I only missed one upgrade through October 31 (and that was the shortest AS flight I ever take, the nighttime SEA-YVR). I missed several SFO-SEA-SFO in November and one in December. Perhaps it was the addition of the 75K level, or perhaps it was just people buying F or using coupons/miles to jump ahead of me.
However, I don't expect any other benefit degradations this year. I would not entirely be surprised if the change fee waiver eventually applied only to the 75K level.
#38
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: AA (PPro/3MM/Admirals Club), AS, UA, Marriott (Gold), HHonors (Gold), Accor (Plat)
Posts: 2,602
The whole AS-AA partnership will be interesting. I also expect AA won't allow upgrades as they don't allow comp to anyone but their EXP flyers.
Of course, I am a MVPG and an EXP flyer, but when I book SFO-LAX (AA)-YVR(AS), I have to choose to be an elite on one flight and a non-status passenger on the other. I choose AS as I would rather UG the 3-hour LAX-YVR over the 1-hour SFO-LAX. The current system doesn't even allow me to get an exit row on the AA flight. I have to flash my AA EXP card to use the priority access line and board early (and sometimes they don't want to let me even with the card).
One time when I did the reverse flight order, an AA agent helped me out by changing the FF number to my AA number, which actually got me into the F cabin for LAX-SFO, but then the whole trip credited to AA and I lost 1000 AS EQMs. Sigh.
Of course, I am a MVPG and an EXP flyer, but when I book SFO-LAX (AA)-YVR(AS), I have to choose to be an elite on one flight and a non-status passenger on the other. I choose AS as I would rather UG the 3-hour LAX-YVR over the 1-hour SFO-LAX. The current system doesn't even allow me to get an exit row on the AA flight. I have to flash my AA EXP card to use the priority access line and board early (and sometimes they don't want to let me even with the card).
One time when I did the reverse flight order, an AA agent helped me out by changing the FF number to my AA number, which actually got me into the F cabin for LAX-SFO, but then the whole trip credited to AA and I lost 1000 AS EQMs. Sigh.
#39
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: RSW
Programs: Delta - Silver; UA - Silver; HHonors - Diamond; IHG - Spire Ambassador; Marriott Bonvoy - Titanium
Posts: 14,185
Agreed that AA benefits will come this year - not exactly "reciprocal" as their elites have AS pre-boarding already! I would be annoyed if we had to buy "stickers" as I have two unused ones in my AA account from a past elite year.
If QX does away with free beer/wine, and no elite comp, I suspect they'll be hearing about it.
If QX does away with free beer/wine, and no elite comp, I suspect they'll be hearing about it.
#42
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,989
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I also think we will see some smaller QX stations axed this year. If I had to wager, I'd put ALW near the top of that list, due to its close proximity to the much larger PSC.
I also think we will see some smaller QX stations axed this year. If I had to wager, I'd put ALW near the top of that list, due to its close proximity to the much larger PSC.
#43
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Between BLI & PAE.
Programs: Nada of note these days….
Posts: 1,287
My ever continuing wish list....
STS/PHX
SEA/RSW
SEA/MSY
SEA/ABQ
PAE to somewhere, I really don't care where I just want to see this area get another mainline airport. It would divert surface traffic off of I-5 and stretch out our attractiveness to tourists and business. If the cruise ships ever decided to dock in Everett this would be done so fast our heads would fly off.
QX please take another long look at flying out of Mesa,AZ. I still think there are interesting West Coast opportunities there.
For the Canucks; thrice weekly BLI/PSP
SEA/RSW
SEA/MSY
SEA/ABQ
PAE to somewhere, I really don't care where I just want to see this area get another mainline airport. It would divert surface traffic off of I-5 and stretch out our attractiveness to tourists and business. If the cruise ships ever decided to dock in Everett this would be done so fast our heads would fly off.
QX please take another long look at flying out of Mesa,AZ. I still think there are interesting West Coast opportunities there.
For the Canucks; thrice weekly BLI/PSP
#44
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SEA
Posts: 12,485
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I also think we will see some smaller QX stations axed this year. If I had to wager, I'd put ALW near the top of that list, due to its close proximity to the much larger PSC.
I also think we will see some smaller QX stations axed this year. If I had to wager, I'd put ALW near the top of that list, due to its close proximity to the much larger PSC.
#45
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 5th Generation Citizen of the 43rd State
Programs: AS MVPG 100K, DL DM, UA Gold, & Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 109
Same plane (one-stop) service: PDX-BOI-ORD
This would allow AS to market two flights daily between PDX-ORD and also allow for a nonstop BOI-ORD flight and a mainline BOI-PDX flight.
This would allow AS to market two flights daily between PDX-ORD and also allow for a nonstop BOI-ORD flight and a mainline BOI-PDX flight.