formeraa

That would have been an AS 727-200! The codeshare ended when AA and AS retired the 727-200. The pilot's unions refused to transfer the agreement over to the MD80.

YVR Cockroach

For those of you too young to remember, DL bought a western U.S. airline and let mostof the network slowly die. No mainline carrier buying a western regional carrier has worked well (or at all) other than WN buying its clone, Morris Air.

maokh

Yes, do a search. They usually pop out right after earnings are announced.

Right, because at a public company regulated by the SEC, the CFO, CTO, and COO are going to include a non-flying Chief Pilot in speculative acquisition banter, which in turn gets leaked right to the largest rumor mill i have ever seen. Pilots also talk to Flight Attendants.

Anyone ever involved in an acquisition understands the strict secrecy required for handling such a transaction. Its on a need to know basis, which most management is never made aware of until the deal is made public. Know, perhaps they may consult a chief pilot for due diligence, but i am not sure how that would make sense.

You might as well just plan on losing money every time you fly that route, as the 737-700 is just not economical to fly with the typical first class/coach configuration..unless you were somehow flying a full first/business class configuration and able to sell the tickets. Its probably cheaper to make a technical stop every now and then.

3Cforme

Referring to Delta's purchase of Western in 1987?

hgdf

"Smile California, PSA is now USAir!"

YVR Cockroach

YVR Cockroach

Any smart marketing logos of AA's purchases of Air Cal and Reno Air?

3Cforme

Thanks for the smile on my guess, but what follows is a refutation of your argument.

Google is young but has a vast command of facts. Point to a 1985 route map for Western.

http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usc/wes...apwa850904.jpg

I count 62 destinations from SLC, not all non-stop. Six have been dropped by Delta from SLC but may be served by codeshare (most of these by AS, actually).

Three others are not served by DL or codeshare partners from SLC: Bismarck, Sioux Falls (both via MSP), and Acapulco.

In return, SLC has gained Delta non-stops to Tokyo, Paris, Maui, Miami... Seems like a pretty good trade, all in. It appears the Western system, far from being ignored and left to die, forms the basis for Delta's success from SLC today.

http://delta.innosked.com/

eponymous_coward

You might look at the non-SLC destinations and contemplate whose route network that might resemble.

Hint: it's not DL's.

Second hint: their planes have an eskimo on the tail...

robsaw

Yeh, but accepting reality would kill off all the good rumour-mill discussions.

But, you are completely correct. NO pilot, F/A or any employee lower than Board Room and senior executive level will have more than zero/none/nada/zilch information on any merger/acquisition between two publicly-traded companies without someone suffering the consequences of insider-trading and confidentiality rules of the SEC, never-mind the internal policies of the companies involved.

longdrelation

Hello, I'm new to this blog thing, but I see the benefit in that there are all sorts of bits of information out there that turn out to be useful.

On the mention of a new BR at LAX, is there any thought to a BR at SJC's new Terminal B? I see the chatter about adding new routes, etc from SJC, there is nothing slated for SJC's new terminal, and there is only an AA lounge in A. Couldn't the addition of routes, a new terminal, coupled with patronage from DL guys be justification for a BR?

beckoa

I would hope there would be one eventually, but have not heard any chatter on the matter. It does make sense for the SJC-AUS tech route though... and OGG definitely could use a club IMHO (even if it just has free wifi, A/C and juice) - a stand alone one operated by keycode on the door - AS could take over the old AQ/MW club... in both KOA and OGG

As for posting on the boards- it is great fun, and a good way to get your questions answered, find upcoming trends/routes/service, and have fun with others who are addicted to travel Case in point-were having an event in ANC this March- check out my signature for more info ^.

formeraa

Huh? Some non-executive may well have info about a mergin/acquisition between two publicly traded companies. They may do things like analyses on the feasibility of a merger, for example. However, they absolutely must not speak publicly about such details under SEC rules.

formeraa

Speaking of which, my Mother used to frequently travel to Alaska for work from SEA. She used to fly Western because she could come back through HNL for only $50 extra!! Any other oldtimers remember this deal???

marbles dad

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it seems that delta already bought into an airline with a large west coast presence, namely Western, and let it go down the toilet. except for SLC , Western routes are a memory. the 737 psp- las was a very nice trip, for example.