maura1025

Interesting, I've held off on getting more cards but you made good points.

I am usually flying American through Philadelphia, does that change your response?

1flyer

Obviously the CC customer must ultimately pay for it. Be it as part of an annual fee or in the form of higher prices at credit card accepting merchants (clearly, any profitable merchant rolls over all costs to customers, including the cost of commissions and charges for the credit card transaction).

This seems a naive conception as well. Every lounge charges for access. Either the customer pays directly (say, via a walk-up fee) or indirectly (in case another airline/program is responsible, there is a monetary fee as well; in case the own airline/program is responsible, there is a transfer price to be paid). In the latter case, ultimately, those costs are rolled over to customers (again assuming airlines and programs aren't operating at a loss).

garykung

Using the same logic, is that mean a cashier of your local grocery store work for you instead of the grocery store, as soon as you buy grocery there?

Also - while the true cost of the PP to the issuers remains as an unknown, it is very likely that your AF may not be able to cover the cost, at least for the first year. So does that really mean you pay for it?

No offense - but you are talking to a top-tier frequent flyer who only purchased the cheapest tickets and get lounge access every single time even without using PP. So tell me - what is my cost?

Boraxo

For me, the cost is built into my JPM-R annual fee of $150 ($450-$300 travel credits). But that fee also covers a whole host of other perks including United Club access, a host of top notch travel insurance benefits, ability to earn Chase UR points, etc. One could easily argue that the cost of PP access is $0 to me as I would pay the AF anyway if PP benefit was discontinued. In reality it is probably somewhere <$10 as I use the UCs about 10x more than PP lounges.

All this is a non-sequitur to the discussion of whether the benefit is rapidly deteriorating - or as I would argue - rapidly increasing due to the addition of almost 2 dozen restaurants in North America, which offer me far more value than a few AS lounges.

ATLMike1234

The restaurant access is nice, and does add value, but does not cater well to business travelers who could just expense the meal anyway. It's far more beneficial to have a quiet area to relax with some light food/drink, which is still lacking in most US airports as an option for PriorityPass holders.

Kalboz

Flying TG924 BKK to MUC in economy which departs at 12:50 AM from I believe International Concourse A. Flying with wife and two kids aged 7 and 10 and we have one CSR PPS card and 2 additional ones from AMEX Hilton cards with 10 visits allowed per card.

Which is the best Priority Pass at BKK in general and Concourse A in particular assuming we start boarding around midnight? And which card to use, the AMEX or the CSR affiliated one?

Thank you!

CO-PLAT

I am a business traveler and the Priority Pass Select suits me well. I'm paid a fixed per diem. When I use the Priority Pass card that I pad for, I pocket the per diem.

Boraxo

Snuggs

limeyx

Blossom lounge n T4 wasn't up to much either. At least it had Gin&Tonic and a shower though I guess

euromannn

What is JPM-R?
Chase has Saphire Reserve for $450.00 which does not include United club Access.
PP restaurants are very limited and PP ignores many airports where at times zero access to lounges like in Sea-Tac Seattle. AS dropped PP access in Seattle.
The Club has at time posted NO PP Access between certain hours. PP refuses o ADD alternative lounges in Seattle or San Francisco (domestic) where no lounge is available.

I could make a few more comments about Chase travel insurance loophole gimmicks that are far worse than other banks but I'll stop at this point.

euromannn

Minute Lounge at PHL is pathetic.

PP will NOT add any more lounge options even refusing to add alternate lounge restaurants.

euromannn

Can you explain what lounges you get into without PP in location and why? Flying "cheap" as you state will not get you into the airline lounges and without PP curious of your claim.

mia

JP Morgan private bank enhanced version of Sapphire Reserve. Discussed here:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...palladium.html

Do you have any evidence to support the use of these pejorative terms? The fact that Priority Pass has not opened lounges at specific airports may be because they are "unable" to do so, or that they have different priorities and will offer more at those airports in due course.

Boraxo

(1) This is not a Chase issue - anybody with PP access (including Amex, CNB and even those who buy PP memberships from PP) face the same issues
(2) As extensively discussed, PP is much weaker in USA than other countries - has gotten worse over the last 2 decades as all of the legacy carriers (UA,CO,DL,US,AA) have pulled their non-hub lounges from PP program.
(3) Addition of PP restaurants is a huge plus for some of us but not useful to others who prefer a "quiet" private lounge. Examples: (a) just last week Mrs. B & I had a stellar free breakfast at Yankee Pier at SFO, which was much closer to our gate than the UA Club or PP lounge at SFO international terminal) (b) earlier this month had a nice free lunch at Giants Clubhouse at SFO, which was directly across from my gate.
(4) CSR does not have UC access but the real annual fee is $150 after you net out $300 in easy travel credits. JPM-R is a premium product similar to CSR - you can read about it in the Chase forum.