Hey NZbutterfly, NZK is currently getting the refit if you wanted to add that to the list.

USB-A if 2A will be 10W. Might get 2.5A which will be 15W. 10W for USB-A seems to be the most common outside aviation.

USB-C is the future.

Given the Asian Carriers are banning the charging and use of power banks while on board. Guess other may follow suit.

It is a shame that a big flood of cheap power banks lacking charge and other safety protections resulting in fires.

Thanks. I was waiting for NZI's test flight to update, but who knows when that will be. Her 7 weeks is up this Sunday!

I already have USB-C for the laptop because it came with that but I never thought a plane would be the push for me to buy a USB-C cable for the phone. But there you go...

I've been 100% USB-C - USB-C for years for my phone and laptop. There is no real way to fast charge devices using USB-A.

One thing that has annoyed me though is a number of Chinese made devices I've either purchased or used lately incl a few head torches that have USB-C connectors but will not charge using a USB-C to USB-C cable - they will only charge with a USB-A to USB-C cable.

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This is fantastic - thanks Mr LB!

Do you have, by chance, any info for Jul/Aug?

I think it is a manual process to look at EF and then enter into a spreadsheet, unless there is a good automated way to scrape the data?

Here’s a little tutorial. (hope the video works. FT won't host the video so can't upload directly)
787-9 = retrofitted aircraft
787 = no retrofit




It takes less than a minute to search a 787 route for a month. You can easily collate the entire schedule yourself. I searched a few routes for you. For July, the routes and frequency remain as per the wiki at the top of this thread. August SFO becomes the dominant LH route.

AUGUST
YVR 15,17,19
PVG 7, 21, 23
SFO 1,3,5,11,13, 27, 29, 31

RAR 15, 17, 19
BNE 3, 5,13, 27, 31
SYD 1, 7, 21, 25, 29
APW 9, 11, 23

No HKG, TPE, HNL, NYC, PER


Main 787 routes:
North America: YVR, SFO, HNL, NYC
Asia: PVG, HKG, TPE
Australia: BNE, SYD, PER
Pacific Islands: RAR, APW

I’m sure it can make an appearance elsewhere but, currently I’d say it’s infrequent. By August I’d expect at least 3 retrofitted 787’s flying so availability across routes will only increase.

Just be careful with assuming every reference to the 787-9 in the app or booking engine means it's a refurb.

For my flights to HKG and back over the next few weeks in the app I have 787 showing for the flight up and 787-9 for the flight back. This is not going to be a refurb aircraft back and will be a regular V2 config.

My feeling (and I'll try and get some clarification) it's that 787 is being used for V1 aircraft and while in some cases 787-9 is being used to designate a refurb V4 aircraft it can clearly also mean a V2.

How many dates did you find the 787-9 with a V2 map? Could it just be an error on that day?
Can't think of any reason why they'd intentionally denote both V2 and V4 with 787-9.
Just did a run through of HKG return on the website and I can't see any 787-9s on the return through to end of August. Must be an error.

It has changed to be 787-9 across the board now. Every 787 flight booked should show as -9 in the app and this change will be coming to the website. If your current booking still shows 787, my guess would be because it was booked before the SAN came out.

All I know is my flight to HKG is a V1 and shows as 787 in the app and my flight back is a V2 and shows as 787-9 in the app. On the website these both show as 787.

I don't know why this differs between the app and booking engine but while checking this today it seems the app may be showing 787-9 for both V2 and V4 aircraft so it's just a case of not assuming every reference to a 787-9 means a V4 refurb!

Is there a logical explanation for making a change from 787 to 787-9 across the board right now instead of leaving it as is? Whenever a V4 returns they have to update maps, and the photos on the website anyway so they could just update the 787 to a 787-9 at that point. Or they could change it after most of the fleet has been done.

It seems odd to make a change from having something that’s helpful to having something that is not helpful, or no better than leaving everything as 787.

(I'm not actually expecting you to have an answer for that)

Sounds exactly like Air NZ! :)

I think there's confusion about where we see the 787-9 vs 787. On the Air NZ Manage Booking, the 787-9 could indicate v2 or v4, whereas 787 would indicate v1.

On the Air NZ website booking engine, there is no ambiguity when it shows 787-9, it would definitively mean v4.

My take.