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Old Oct 17, 22, 4:36 pm
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Seat & Seat+bag gone on mid-haul
According to Herald, Air NZ is doing away with seats-2-suit on mid-haul flights. PER and PPT first in line to go full "the works" on 20th Oct 2022, with HNL to follow on 30th Oct 2022.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/air-new-zealand-ditches-seat-only-fares-for-perth-and-mid-haul-services/YB33A6YOM2Z6QZDLKPJ6C77PTI/

Now if my seat -> PE upgrade for PER in Nov doesn't clear it will hurt a little less
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Old Oct 17, 22, 4:46 pm
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More details here https://p-airnz.com/cms/assets/NZ-Ag...-Oct-22-v2.pdf
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Old Oct 17, 22, 5:40 pm
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PPT has got to be the one going to HiFly reading between the lines here
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Old Oct 17, 22, 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by samyoull
PPT has got to be the one going to HiFly reading between the lines here
Do you know that HiFly is confirmed as the wet lease operator?
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Old Oct 18, 22, 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by samyoull
PPT has got to be the one going to HiFly reading between the lines here
They may use HiFly for HNL again like they did a few years back pre COVID, I think then it may have only been a leased aircraft rather than full crew also iirc
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Old Oct 18, 22, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by samyoull
PPT has got to be the one going to HiFly reading between the lines here
You are one step ahead of me in reading between the lines sir! If that's the case I'd put money on PER going wet lease. After all it was the first to go HiFly in 2018 along with SYD.
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Old Oct 18, 22, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by racekp
They may use HiFly for HNL again like they did a few years back pre COVID, I think then it may have only been a leased aircraft rather than full crew also iirc
Hi fly was always wet lease as was A330/340.

The 1x EVA 773 and the 2x Boeing 772 were dry leases, as had crew, ops, maintenance, etc trained on them already
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Old Oct 18, 22, 2:52 pm
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I never understood HNL being a S2S route... But this is nothing more than price increases for many customers.
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Old Oct 18, 22, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by sbiddle
I never understood HNL being a S2S route... But this is nothing more than price increases for many customers.
I was surprised too booking recently that HNL had S2S - I suspect almost all of the 4% who buy Seat-only would be travelling with a companion with an allowance and would have bought the ticket anyway if there was no other option.
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Old Oct 18, 22, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by prelude
I was surprised too booking recently that HNL had S2S - I suspect almost all of the 4% who buy Seat-only would be travelling with a companion with an allowance and would have bought the ticket anyway if there was no other option.
Would have thought more some food for the length of flight? Baggage allowance is no biggie. A lot of people travel with carry on only.
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Old Oct 18, 22, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by nzkarit
Hi fly was always wet lease as was A330/340.

The 1x EVA 773 and the 2x Boeing 772 were dry leases, as had crew, ops, maintenance, etc trained on them already
As yes thanks for that, was getting HiFly and the EVA leases mixed up
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Old Oct 18, 22, 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by prelude
I was surprised too booking recently that HNL had S2S - I suspect almost all of the 4% who buy Seat-only would be travelling with a companion with an allowance and would have bought the ticket anyway if there was no other option.
Where is the 4% figure from?
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Old Oct 18, 22, 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by codyc1515
Where is the 4% figure from?
NZHerald. OPs link now leads to a 404 for some reason.

A spokesperson from Air New Zealand said 'Seat' only fares represented around 5 per cent of tickets from Perth. On Honolulu this is closer to 4 per cent flying carry-on only.
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Old Oct 18, 22, 8:59 pm
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Originally Posted by nzkarit
Would have thought more some food for the length of flight? Baggage allowance is no biggie. A lot of people travel with carry on only.
Hmm. I always thought people would have non-trivial amounts of luggage to bring to holiday destinations - maybe I'm just underestimating how enterprising some people truly are! I guess Hawaii doesn't exactly require a luggage full of clothes...
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Old Oct 19, 22, 2:35 am
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So if DPS makes a return in 2023? Does it come
back as a full service route?
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