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Old Oct 25, 2022, 2:41 am
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It's finally happening!
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by codyc1515
My look at FR24 suggest that the decision to go via Fiji was made before departure or very soon after. The linked news item stating 'forced' seems an exaggeration - more like "Airline chooses to make technical fuel stop in Fiji rather than offload bags and/or passengers - the lesser of two PR evils?"
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 3:29 am
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“Our priority is getting customers to where they need to go safely. It’ll mean a short stop in Nadi to refuel and swap over crew, which means NZ1 will arrive into Auckland around five hours later than expected.”

Marren said all 180 passengers had been told of the stopover before departure from John F Kennedy International Airport in New York. The Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner plane would be met in Nadi by a replacement crew.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 11:00 am
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I wonder with a five-hour delay built in, is it better to just connect at ORD for EWR-ORD-AKL rather than the NZ1 "non-stop"?
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 11:36 am
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Tech stop wasn't needed again.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by sbiddle
Tech stop wasn't needed again.
I wonder if the additional crew being sent to Fiji were turned off in time?
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi
I wonder if the additional crew being sent to Fiji were turned off in time?
No, they flew up yesterday afternoon on the scheduled AKL-NAN flight.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by mediator
I wonder with a five-hour delay built in, is it better to just connect at ORD for EWR-ORD-AKL rather than the NZ1 "non-stop"?
A map from Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper

A stop at any airport will increase the time. A lot more if pax embark/disembark.

A NAN tech stop (when it happens) is 490 miles longer (~1 hr flying time)
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
A map from Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper

A stop at any airport will increase the time. A lot more if pax embark/disembark.

A NAN tech stop (when it happens) is 490 miles longer (~1 hr flying time)
Think the article said could be a 4-5 hours late or something. Though not sure how much is tech stop vs how much wind making it slow.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 1:56 pm
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Can I except some form of compensation as BP passenger in this situation.
I can tell you my ticket WAS NOT CHEAP.

I purchased a non stop flight from New York to Auckland, and I expect to get there, in comfort, with no stopping!
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 2:09 pm
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Can I except some form of compensation as BP passenger in this situation.
I can tell you my ticket WAS NOT CHEAP.

I purchased a non stop flight from New York to Auckland, and I expect to get there, in comfort, with no stopping!
Compensation for what exactly? Not a single flight has had to stop in Nadi.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by OpenSky
Can I except some form of compensation as BP passenger in this situation.
I can tell you my ticket WAS NOT CHEAP.

I purchased a non stop flight from New York to Auckland, and I expect to get there, in comfort, with no stopping!
Even with the stop this is FAR more preferable than transit through a horrible US airport.
Further comment earlier about EWR-ORD-AKL ? Again no thanks - way to risky transiting another US airport with missed connections and security cues.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by OpenSky
Can I except some form of compensation as BP passenger in this situation.
I can tell you my ticket WAS NOT CHEAP.

I purchased a non stop flight from New York to Auckland, and I expect to get there, in comfort, with no stopping!
I don’t think so, but form your own assessment from AirNZ Conditions of Carriage: https://www.airnewzealand.com/conditions-of-carriage

Some selective extracts:
1.6 What if my Ticket is for business travel?

If you buy, or claim to buy, a Ticket for business purposes, the Consumer Guarantees Act 1993 (New Zealand) will not apply. This does not change the rest of our Agreement which remains valid.

1.7 Do links to the Air New Zealand website form part of our Agreement?

In this Agreement we sometimes provide links to further information on our website. That information is only for your guidance, and does not form part of our Agreement.

8.4 Does Air New Zealand guarantee flight times?

Sorry, we cannot guarantee our flight times.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by OpenSky
Can I except some form of compensation as BP passenger in this situation.
I can tell you my ticket WAS NOT CHEAP.

I purchased a non stop flight from New York to Auckland, and I expect to get there, in comfort, with no stopping!
If the flight is early can the airline claim additional money from you? Or given less time to enjoy the seat would you sell compensation for that as well?

But seriously does any airline offer compensation for diverts?

If non stop is an absolute must may be a business jet could be a better option?
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Thai-Kiwi
I don’t think so, but form your own assessment from AirNZ Conditions of Carriage: https://www.airnewzealand.com/conditions-of-carriage
Carriers COC cannot override legislation. They can write whatever they want in there, it doesn't make it enforceable.
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