JFK-AKL diversions begin.
Dec 17, 2022, 9:14 pm
#211
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Tonights flight looks like a divert again to Nadi. Madness!!
The next few days, will be interesting, because the flights sold out before Air NZ decided to hold back on the 100 seats on flights going westward. I believe the old figure was holding back 80 seats, which clearly is not light enough to transport everyone direct without a stop.
The next few days, will be interesting, because the flights sold out before Air NZ decided to hold back on the 100 seats on flights going westward. I believe the old figure was holding back 80 seats, which clearly is not light enough to transport everyone direct without a stop.
I genuinely am fascinated by the fact that you seem to be obsessed by this flight and seem to want it to genuinely be a failure (which it's not). Why?
I'm just your average friendly av geek across the tasman, without much of a life.
Dec 18, 2022, 10:09 pm
#214
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Gee I dunno. If we use each passenger as an unique data point, that's 150x per flight since it launched. So thousands in the sample and plenty of prospective power for a regression model to be developed. 
Dec 18, 2022, 10:10 pm
#215
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Gee I dunno. If we use each passenger as an unique data point, that's 150x per flight since it launched. So thousands in the sample and plenty of prospective power for a regression model to be developed.
Dec 19, 2022, 1:08 pm
#216
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Having spent 16+ hours up front on the ORD-AKL route twice now, I can confidently say I will not be using these ultra-long haul services. 12 hours is about the maximum for me. A chance to stretch my legs, get some fresh air and perhaps even a shower. There is only so much eating, sleeping, watching you can do on a single flight.
Dec 19, 2022, 9:44 pm
#217
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Having spent 16+ hours up front on the ORD-AKL route twice now, I can confidently say I will not be using these ultra-long haul services. 12 hours is about the maximum for me. A chance to stretch my legs, get some fresh air and perhaps even a shower. There is only so much eating, sleeping, watching you can do on a single flight.
Not having to stop at LAX is helpful. I personally would not do this flight in Economy thats for sure, unless it's a sky couch. I've done LAX to DXB - thats a long flight - 16 hours, an even in business class I was pretty wiped out. But that was on an A380, I am confident the 787 is much more comfortable
So it seems that in order to comply with regulations the Air NZ is filing a flight plan with the diversion, later changed. Hmm. Encouraging. Well see.
Dec 20, 2022, 1:17 am
#218
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Having spent 16+ hours up front on the ORD-AKL route twice now, I can confidently say I will not be using these ultra-long haul services. 12 hours is about the maximum for me. A chance to stretch my legs, get some fresh air and perhaps even a shower. There is only so much eating, sleeping, watching you can do on a single flight.
Dec 20, 2022, 1:22 pm
#219
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I loved ORD-AKL the only thing that was annoying for me was the stupid timing of the breakfast service so far out from landing. I don't know if timing has changed at all but waking up 4 1/2 hours out and then having the service completed and lights turned off again with 3 hours to fly still and beds all packed up was less than ideal. I know they did this to allow for crew rest breaks but it just ends up being very annoying for customers.
Dec 20, 2022, 5:10 pm
#221
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: AKL
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Again being NZ based, I will do anything to stay on a direct flight rather than the messy US connection. Coming back from a conference nearly every second person had a delay in the US domestic leg before the connection back to the pacific (QF flyers).
**This is much easier to handle when at the front of the bus, the FSM mentioned our extended ORD-AKL 17.5 hour trip was causing much restlessness in the back.
Last edited by JANZFlyer; Dec 20, 2022 at 5:11 pm Reason: class of travel
Dec 25, 2022, 1:55 am
#223
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