Will NZ have BP/PY only planes for ultra long haul?
Sep 20, 2022, 11:44 am
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Will NZ have BP/PY only planes for ultra long haul?
Given the reduced pax/baggage capacity for AKL-JFK-AKL and the premium nature of the market, will NZ introduce a seating plan similar to SQs for these ultra long hauls?
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...50-900-ULR.pdf
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...50-900-ULR.pdf
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Sep 20, 2022, 1:17 pm
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From memory the total seat count on the new config from 2024 is only around 200.
Sep 20, 2022, 1:25 pm
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Does anyone have a link to the Code 3 seating?
A Google search of Air New Zealand 787 Code 3 seating was not useful
A Google search of Air New Zealand 787 Code 3 seating was not useful
Sep 20, 2022, 5:00 pm
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Sep 20, 2022, 5:06 pm
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Given the reduced pax/baggage capacity for AKL-JFK-AKL and the premium nature of the market, will NZ introduce a seating plan similar to SQs for these ultra long hauls?
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...50-900-ULR.pdf
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...50-900-ULR.pdf
Sep 22, 2022, 11:25 am
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What sort of generalisation is that? There are some companies that do Y only - small through large, but there are more that offer Business or Premium Economy travel policies than purely Y only.
Sep 23, 2022, 2:34 am
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Sep 23, 2022, 2:42 am
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Whilst there's probably little peer-reviewed research, I can say with very very high level of confidence that many large companies have policies that allow for F/J/PE travel. A lot of it comes down to whether travel is billable or not, the seniority of the traveller, flight duration, origin/desitination of the trip, and trip purpose.
Also, there are a lot of high earning SMEs where the owner(s) travel business/first because why not? They've worked hard all their life and have built their business to the point where flying in the pointy end is a non-starter. I personally know several owner-operated SMEs where the owner travels up the front.
Also, there are a lot of high earning SMEs where the owner(s) travel business/first because why not? They've worked hard all their life and have built their business to the point where flying in the pointy end is a non-starter. I personally know several owner-operated SMEs where the owner travels up the front.
Sep 27, 2022, 12:16 am
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Whilst there's probably little peer-reviewed research, I can say with very very high level of confidence that many large companies have policies that allow for F/J/PE travel. A lot of it comes down to whether travel is billable or not, the seniority of the traveller, flight duration, origin/desitination of the trip, and trip purpose.
Also, there are a lot of high earning SMEs where the owner(s) travel business/first because why not? They've worked hard all their life and have built their business to the point where flying in the pointy end is a non-starter. I personally know several owner-operated SMEs where the owner travels up the front.
Also, there are a lot of high earning SMEs where the owner(s) travel business/first because why not? They've worked hard all their life and have built their business to the point where flying in the pointy end is a non-starter. I personally know several owner-operated SMEs where the owner travels up the front.
Sep 27, 2022, 12:24 am
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+100 for all this. And anecdotally, based on travellers I chat with plus my own travel habits as a former tech journalist when tech companies fly media to events, plenty of company travel policies stipulate business class, although there are several instances where on international flights under 8 hours, premium economy will be decreed instead of business.
Quite often with multi-nationals their T&E policy can be 100+ pages with the flight policy alone making up a good 8-12 pages of that. Flight policies can get extremely complex. I know of one global bank with an NZ presence which essentially assigns a 'tier' to each employee and then has a separate class-of-travel policy for each tier.