New Zealand has opened discussion with Australia at reopening the border
Apr 26, 20, 4:15 pm
#31
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Remember the rules change last week "Elimination of the virus does not mean zero cases but zero tolerance" (From the Prime Minister) a change from eradication retoric from the previous weeks. If this is now the school of thought then it may open the gate for a TT bubble. I would suspect if so then contact tracking/tracing would form a significant parameter both sides of the Tasman. Maybe done but a requirement to upload a tracking app that works on both sides of the ditch.
Good article on this:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/24-...n-of-covid-19/
Apr 26, 20, 7:02 pm
#32
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Some of that is also how scientists use words vs rest of population use the same words.
Good article on this:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/24-...n-of-covid-19/
Good article on this:
https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/24-...n-of-covid-19/
Apr 26, 20, 8:42 pm
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I have a genuine reason to go to China now. I really hope that New Zealand sees if they can add them into the bubble too. So much business I can't do right now because I need to travel for it, sigh 
Apr 26, 20, 8:44 pm
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One possible consideration is because pandemics are not equal opportunity killers. For example, the Influenza pandemic in 1918 witnessed mortality rates four times greater for the indigenous populations of New Zealand, Australia and the USA compared to the rest of their national populations. In (Western) Samoa 22% of the population died in a few weeks after it arrived there.*
In the USA Covid-19 is hitting African-Americans much harder than European-Americans and it likely would have the same effect in New Zealand with Maori and other Polynesian populations.
I think New Zealand is, in part, trying to protect its Maori and Pacific Islands populations.
*This information on the 1918 influenze pandemic is from Pandemics: A Very Short Introduction from Oxford University Press.
In the USA Covid-19 is hitting African-Americans much harder than European-Americans and it likely would have the same effect in New Zealand with Maori and other Polynesian populations.
I think New Zealand is, in part, trying to protect its Maori and Pacific Islands populations.
*This information on the 1918 influenze pandemic is from Pandemics: A Very Short Introduction from Oxford University Press.
Apr 27, 20, 4:11 am
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Basically team: the better we do at this social distancing thing today, the faster we can travel tomorrow! Staying securely in my bubble! https://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/12...ight-look-like
Apr 29, 20, 11:54 pm
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As someone who has a holiday home in Queenstown, its largely been the idiotic 20-29 age backpacker/hippie/hostel/unemployed crowd that I have seen over the last 6 weeks breaking the rules. They seem to think nothing applies to them (cause they aren't a huge contribution to society perhaps!?). Sadly, there is no coincidence that its NZs largest age group that had Covid. Driving through town even today youd think we were already at level 2-many gathering in and out of restaurants hanging out and chatting. 
Back to the relevant topic at hand, Im due to fly AKL-LAX on the 21st and so far the flight is holding and it seems ill be able to get from CHC to AKL that day. Ill report airside.
Back to the relevant topic at hand, Im due to fly AKL-LAX on the 21st and so far the flight is holding and it seems ill be able to get from CHC to AKL that day. Ill report airside.
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