Air Nz offering 'Change Flexibility', but only for new bookings.
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: South Island, New Zealand
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Air Nz offering 'Change Flexibility', but only for new bookings.
I see the news "Air New Zealand is introducing booking change flexibility for all new international bookings ticketed from 5 March to 31 March 2020". Change fees and penalties will be waived.
That is a good way to alienate your existing passengers with no flexibility offered for changes/cancellations whilst offering this to new bookings.
Clearly a way to try and encourage those with any doubts to have confidence and make bookings, but what about recognising your existing customers?
Mrs Ottie and I have PE/J fares booked to LHR in a few weeks time and due to changes in the cruise we were taking (we cancelled it!) would like to have flexibility to change our bookings accordingly to fit with our new arrangements, but apparently NZ don't want to facilitate that.
Sorry NZ, but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I was always told it made better sense in business long term to look after your existing customer and their needs ahead of canvassing for new business.
I guess it is worth a call to them to appeal to their sense of fairness - has anyone else tried this with making international booking changes?
That is a good way to alienate your existing passengers with no flexibility offered for changes/cancellations whilst offering this to new bookings.
Clearly a way to try and encourage those with any doubts to have confidence and make bookings, but what about recognising your existing customers?
Mrs Ottie and I have PE/J fares booked to LHR in a few weeks time and due to changes in the cruise we were taking (we cancelled it!) would like to have flexibility to change our bookings accordingly to fit with our new arrangements, but apparently NZ don't want to facilitate that.
Sorry NZ, but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I was always told it made better sense in business long term to look after your existing customer and their needs ahead of canvassing for new business.
I guess it is worth a call to them to appeal to their sense of fairness - has anyone else tried this with making international booking changes?
#2
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: NZ
Programs: NZ Elite
Posts: 78
Yes I tried just yesterday and no lenience, was told could amend but would inccur change fee + service fee + any fare difference, if cancelled then nothing. I agree it really puts everyone who booked prior to 5 March in a less than ideal situation, also considering most travel insurance won't help
#3
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I figured that might have been the situation. They should take a lesson from the cruise industry who are offering a range of lenient cancellation policies now (the difference being that airlines have our money once we book, while cruise lines often only have a deposit until final payment date arrives), so relatively NZ is in a stronger position as they have our money!
#4
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: NZ*E
Posts: 682
rang them today about a March booking - that now I am considering to cancel
I must say they have been so rigid that I am most disappointed
I am extremely surprised that they have not been more relax at times like this - this is the first time for a long time that I am feeling like this towards the airline
I must say they have been so rigid that I am most disappointed
I am extremely surprised that they have not been more relax at times like this - this is the first time for a long time that I am feeling like this towards the airline
#5
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: NZ GE, QF
Posts: 291
rang them today about a March booking - that now I am considering to cancel
I must say they have been so rigid that I am most disappointed
I am extremely surprised that they have not been more relax at times like this - this is the first time for a long time that I am feeling like this towards the airline
I must say they have been so rigid that I am most disappointed
I am extremely surprised that they have not been more relax at times like this - this is the first time for a long time that I am feeling like this towards the airline
#6
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 167
Yes, I tried to cancel flights without having to pay the penalty but the person on the phone/their supervisor was not helpful and refused to waive the penalty. That is ok (I did pay the cheap, non-refundable fare as well) but then I got a lecture about how I should take vitamin D supplements to 'boost my immune system' to prevent the coronavirus! The person on the phone also suggested that COVID-19 rates were so high in the northern hemisphere because over there it is winter and sunlight levels are low leading to low levels of vitamin D! Extremely unprofessional and, frankly, useless information. I am in the medical field so I know the truth.. vitamin D does not prevent COVID-19!
#7
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Auckland
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I’ve had to reschedule two long-haul PE journeys ex-AKL to the U.S. this week. Both booked on Global Saver / Global Sale fares (later of which is fully non-refundable, non-changeable). I rang to enquire how much changing the flights would be, and as per usual, the answer was “change fee, service fee, fare difference”. Since I don’t yet know what dates to reschedule to, pending changes in event schedules, they immediately offered (without me asking) to hold the entire fare in credit for 12 months until I‘ve worked out my plans. Once I know my new dates, taking into account fare availability, I simply ring back and pay the fees only. Contrary to the complaints about airlines I’ve been hearing, I find that VERY reasonable given I purchased good value fares that I cannot use now. They are well aware I would not have traveled this week, and yet they offered to keep the full ticket value in credit.
#8
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: NZ
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I’ve had to reschedule two long-haul PE journeys ex-AKL to the U.S. this week. Both booked on Global Saver / Global Sale fares (later of which is fully non-refundable, non-changeable). I rang to enquire how much changing the flights would be, and as per usual, the answer was “change fee, service fee, fare difference”. Since I don’t yet know what dates to reschedule to, pending changes in event schedules, they immediately offered (without me asking) to hold the entire fare in credit for 12 months until I‘ve worked out my plans. Once I know my new dates, taking into account fare availability, I simply ring back and pay the fees only. Contrary to the complaints about airlines I’ve been hearing, I find that VERY reasonable given I purchased good value fares that I cannot use now. They are well aware I would not have traveled this week, and yet they offered to keep the full ticket value in credit.
#9
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 54
Twice in the past couple of years I have had to cancel non refundable fares, the first they did as above and credited the tickets. The second time the person on the phone insisted this was impossible, so I hung up, rang back, spoke to someone else and got it done.
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but then I got a lecture about how I should take vitamin D supplements to 'boost my immune system' to prevent the coronavirus! The person on the phone also suggested that COVID-19 rates were so high in the northern hemisphere because over there it is winter and sunlight levels are low leading to low levels of vitamin D! Extremely unprofessional and, frankly, useless information. I am in the medical field so I know the truth.. vitamin D does not prevent COVID-19!
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#12
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: NZ*E
Posts: 682
I’ve had to reschedule two long-haul PE journeys ex-AKL to the U.S. this week. Both booked on Global Saver / Global Sale fares (later of which is fully non-refundable, non-changeable). I rang to enquire how much changing the flights would be, and as per usual, the answer was “change fee, service fee, fare difference”. Since I don’t yet know what dates to reschedule to, pending changes in event schedules, they immediately offered (without me asking) to hold the entire fare in credit for 12 months until I‘ve worked out my plans. Once I know my new dates, taking into account fare availability, I simply ring back and pay the fees only. Contrary to the complaints about airlines I’ve been hearing, I find that VERY reasonable given I purchased good value fares that I cannot use now. They are well aware I would not have traveled this week, and yet they offered to keep the full ticket value in credit.
#13
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Auckland
Programs: NZ Elite, BA Silver, Delta Gold | Marriott Platinum | Accor/Hilton/Radisson/Shangri-La Gold
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That s good but my understanding is that they will charge the change fee and service fee and of course fare difference at the time when you make your booking - so what is held in credit is not going to cover and you still have to fork out the difference and including these fees....
#14
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Yes, I tried to cancel flights without having to pay the penalty but the person on the phone/their supervisor was not helpful and refused to waive the penalty. That is ok (I did pay the cheap, non-refundable fare as well) but then I got a lecture about how I should take vitamin D supplements to 'boost my immune system' to prevent the coronavirus! The person on the phone also suggested that COVID-19 rates were so high in the northern hemisphere because over there it is winter and sunlight levels are low leading to low levels of vitamin D! Extremely unprofessional and, frankly, useless information. I am in the medical field so I know the truth.. vitamin D does not prevent COVID-19!
#15
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: NZ*E
Posts: 682
Yes, of course I’ll be paying the fees at that time, but considering I could have lost the total ~$7k value of two return long-haul PE tickets, I maintain the view their handling of the situation was not only reasonable, but with a clear customer relationship focus in mind.
but then ther are a bit of inconsistent practices and several Asian airlines have been waving all fees and is able to refund - so why can't NZ? that is for existing bookings, not for 'new' bookings as the airline now suggests