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Old Oct 18, 2019, 8:20 pm
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Quandary - Air NZ vs Air Canada YUL-AKL

Opinions please - looking to fly home at Christmas for 8-9 days, options are NZ vs AC. Will be premium economy one way and economy the other, cost is slightly more (~$200 CAD) on NZ. I have a couple of RU's to burn on NZ, however I'll get the chance to use later in the year if not on this trip. Airpoints / Status points look similar (slightly more on Air NZ). I'm pushed towards AC because the scheduling is better (short YVR layover each way) and will get premium economy on the YUL-YVR leg as well (at 5.5 hours this is probably worth it). Any other reason to pick NZ?
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Old Oct 18, 2019, 8:31 pm
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5.5 hrs in PE is better than 5.5 hrs in Y
Can you buy an more legroom/exit row economy seat on Air Canada? [$200?]

Any options with other airlines? (Not Star Alliance?)
Is AKL the final destination?

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Old Oct 19, 2019, 3:05 am
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On the other hand AirNZ PE is substantially better than AC PE (which I've not flown, but it's clear from the trip reports). NZ has far more pitch and recline, and service level and amenities are more business lite vs AC's much more middle of the road AC offering.
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Old Oct 19, 2019, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
5.5 hrs in PE is better than 5.5 hrs in Y
Can you buy an more legroom/exit row economy seat on Air Canada? [$200?]

Any options with other airlines? (Not Star Alliance?)
Is AKL the final destination?

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Yes AKL final destination (though possibly WLG for a few days as well). Exit row may be an option but I haven't investigated
Google flights suggest that non-*A is only marginally cheaper.
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Old Oct 20, 2019, 2:05 pm
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Fly NZ via ORD, short hop and then spend most of your time on one long haul flight.

Transcon to transpac is a miserable experience.
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Old Oct 20, 2019, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by samyoull
Fly NZ via ORD, short hop and then spend most of your time on one long haul flight.

Transcon to transpac is a miserable experience.
Good suggestion - thanks. The return leg only has YVR as an option...
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Old Oct 20, 2019, 7:01 pm
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You can overcome that by using the multi-stop booking function or by calling Air NZ and booking over the phone (you must just need to battle an attempt to charge you a fee for doing so).
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Old Oct 20, 2019, 7:44 pm
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I see that ORD-AKL is only 3x weekly.
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Old Oct 20, 2019, 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Balancerider
I see that ORD-AKL is only 3x weekly.
5x from next month when they have another aircraft.
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Old Oct 21, 2019, 10:18 pm
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Air Canada's Premium Economy is Economy Plus at best.
No curtain between PY & Y.
Shared bathroom with Y.
Economy meal and service, just served first.
No drink service.
Less legroom and recline that NZ.

I have flown AC an NZ PY this year, so feel well qualified to compare the two.
If you book AC Y+, expect economy with more leg room.
If you book NZ PY, expect substantially more leg room, more width, premium service, dedicated cabin.
At 6'4", NZ's PY is very comfortable, AC not at all.
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Old Oct 22, 2019, 11:21 am
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NZ has fallen apart, its living on its reputation, I just did two trips in J USA-SYD on NZ and its a disaster.

However for your PY certainly NZ has more space but you trade off with Economy in Canada.
Come with low expectations and you will be fine.
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Old Oct 22, 2019, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by taupo
Air Canada's Premium Economy is Economy Plus at best.
No curtain between PY & Y.
Shared bathroom with Y.
Economy meal and service, just served first.
No drink service.
Less legroom and recline that NZ.

I have flown AC an NZ PY this year, so feel well qualified to compare the two.
If you book AC Y+, expect economy with more leg room.
If you book NZ PY, expect substantially more leg room, more width, premium service, dedicated cabin.
At 6'4", NZ's PY is very comfortable, AC not at all.
Thanks all - the above post was the clincher, I'm 6'3" so mainly keen on some extra legroom, cost wasn't much different than AC on the dates I wanted to travel
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by taupo
Air Canada's Premium Economy is Economy Plus at best.
No curtain between PY & Y.
Shared bathroom with Y.
Economy meal and service, just served first.
No drink service.
Less legroom and recline that NZ.

I have flown AC an NZ PY this year, so feel well qualified to compare the two.
If you book AC Y+, expect economy with more leg room.
If you book NZ PY, expect substantially more leg room, more width, premium service, dedicated cabin.
At 6'4", NZ's PY is very comfortable, AC not at all.
100% agree with this - I flew long haul PE on both NZ and AC back in June. AC wasn’t a patch on NZ
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 8:12 am
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Buy the Twin seat for your long haul economy leg for the extra space when you check-in.
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Old Oct 23, 2019, 10:43 am
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I've selected 36C for ORD-AKL, which in theory has no seat in front in the 787-9 (but can't find much online to verify this)
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