Air NZ to replace 777-200ER with 787-10
May 27, 2019, 1:52 am
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May 27, 2019, 5:58 am
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the 787-10 is NOT a long range plane, so NZ is not flying it to NY.
787-10 range is 6400nm (11800KM)
787-9 8500nm, (15,700km) however seems to be all kinds of different range quoted.
AKL-SFO is 10,500km
AKL-EWR is 14,185km
787-10 range is 6400nm (11800KM)
787-9 8500nm, (15,700km) however seems to be all kinds of different range quoted.
AKL-SFO is 10,500km
AKL-EWR is 14,185km
May 27, 2019, 7:07 am
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It really leads wonder how much NZ cares about passengers vs profit, after flying NZ J again yesterday was reminded how bad there standards have slipped...
The seats on the 777s are becoming well worn, and slick of paint isn’t going to help that, if they aren’t going to clean them.
May 27, 2019, 8:38 am
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That's why I deliberately didn't put the -10 at the end of my comment. But the -10 choice means they didn't go with Airbus which I would have given a shot.
May 27, 2019, 1:17 pm
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The only proposed change for economy I saw mentioned yesterday was the new "Economy+" seating at the front of Economy which will offer greater seat pitch.
May 27, 2019, 1:24 pm
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May 27, 2019, 10:55 pm
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May 28, 2019, 12:20 am
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Really don’t know why there are so stuck with the mind set of creating an in-house Seat, just look at there past track record with that.
They could of gone down the same path as Qantas and had an new seat fitted to all the 777/787s by now....
May 28, 2019, 6:12 am
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I'd rather they went for an A350 but this was a fairly predictable decision. What will they replace the 773s with in due course, though? Might Airbus have a more realistic look in then?
May 28, 2019, 7:29 am
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I was in CX business on the A350-1000 a few weeks ago and the seat was fantastic - well laid out, very functional, comfortable and lots of storage as well as privacy. Made the current NZ setup look economy. Of course NZ soft product is frequently good.
May 28, 2019, 9:14 am
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That's going to be a question as to whether NZ can justify having higher capacity aircraft for AKL-LAX-LHR and to deploy strategically on NZ5/6, 7/8 and elsewhere as required. If it is not 777-8 (9 would be a jump further, but maybe better to justify having the 777-X type on top of a pure 787 long haul fleet), then it will just be 787-10 in a premium heavy configuration.
May 28, 2019, 1:30 pm
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The 777-9 is too big for Air NZ, and the problem with the 777-8 is that it's still a long way off. It was originally scheduled for EIS around late 2022 but there has been talk lately this could be pushed back further, and even some rumours that it could be scrapped entirely with most demand being for the -9 variant. The 777X was had not been a serious replacement option for the 200ER due to the fact it may not exist when Air NZ needed to start receiving their new aircraft.
It could be entirely feasible that Air NZ could ultimately scrap the 777 and have a fully 787-9 and 787-10 fleet, but that would mean a cut in cargo capacity which is still important.
The airline industry is on the cusp of a significant amount of turmoil with fuel prices and the global economy slowing, not to mention all the uncertainty caused by the US. You've already seen the ME3 seriously struggling and cutting back orders, and right now taking the safe option is better than trying to be big.
Last edited by sbiddle; May 28, 2019 at 1:37 pm