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Air New Zealand flight turned back by Iran due to lack of clearance

Air New Zealand flight turned back by Iran due to lack of clearance

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Old Feb 19, 19, 11:26 pm
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Air New Zealand flight turned back by Iran due to lack of clearance

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Old Feb 19, 19, 11:34 pm
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Won't it be Southern Cross not AirNZ? Or does Southern Cross only do the ATR flights?
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Old Feb 19, 19, 11:40 pm
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Didn't something like this happen to a NZ flight to mainland China a couple days ago?

ADDED: It was a flight to Shanghai and this happened about two weeks ago.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 12:59 am
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Iran has close ties with China. So maybe another indirect message to NZ.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 2:37 am
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Iran has close ties with China. So maybe another indirect message to NZ.
Far more likely a paperwork oversight
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Old Feb 20, 19, 2:51 am
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Reading the article, it was paperwork that was the issue. Also, it wasn't air nz that messed up a second time. It was the delivery team for the plane that flew it out without clearance.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by kiwifrequentflyer View Post
Reading the article, it was paperwork that was the issue. Also, it wasn't air nz that messed up a second time. It was the delivery team for the plane that flew it out without clearance.
I thought the delivery flights were crewed by NZ pilots, but it is possible that the clearances were outsourced to another agent given itís not an area NZ usually overfly. I assume someone at NZ (whether the crew on board or in Auckland) would have had to okay the decision to leave without clearance though.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 3:30 am
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Iran has close ties with China. So maybe another indirect message to NZ.
The ties are not perfect, esp. since China is also closely cooperating with Iran's enemy Pakistran.
Iran won't spend its diplomatic capital to annoy New Zealand intentionally just to impress China.

Iran is more stingy with overfly rights since Iran airlines have trouble accessing EU airspace. Moreover, Iran has some leverage since a lot of passenger airlines can only fly the Turkey-Iran route from Europe to Asia, because Eastern Ukraine is avoided.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 1:02 pm
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I thought the delivery flights were crewed by NZ pilots, but it is possible that the clearances were outsourced to another agent given itís not an area NZ usually overfly. I assume someone at NZ (whether the crew on board or in Auckland) would have had to okay the decision to leave without clearance though.
According to the Air NZ rep, the delivery team was separate from Air NZ. They may have had NZ pilots but it wasn't Air NZ handling paperwork.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by kiwifrequentflyer View Post
According to the Air NZ rep, the delivery team was separate from Air NZ. They may have had NZ pilots but it wasn't Air NZ handling paperwork.
Yeah think it is Southern Cross who handle these delivery flights from Europe Southern Cross Southern Cross Aviation specialise in delivery flights and the logistics. (Wide bodies from Boeing I think are flown by AirNZ as they are non stops and cross the Pacific which is normalish routes for the AirNZ planners)

If there were AirNZ staff on board it is most probably the people who signed the paperwork. Engineer, Pilot, Finance, etc
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