Elite Xmas Gift this Year
#31
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 646
This year I have received nothing as a thankyou from Air NZ, however Malaysia very kindly have me vouchers worth NZ$125 to spend on in flight purchases on my next flight.
I have cut my air NZ flights by 66% over the last 2 years and fly the minimum to maintain GE status with Air NZ. The customer experience just doesn't bear comparison with MH.
I have cut my air NZ flights by 66% over the last 2 years and fly the minimum to maintain GE status with Air NZ. The customer experience just doesn't bear comparison with MH.
I get it takes time and money putting gifts together. A voucher is a nice alternative to nothing.
#32
Moderator, Hilton Honors
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,422
A voucher that requires further travel to use is also good for the airline, assuming it can be effectively used. I don't count NZ's upgrade vouchers in this category because they are difficult to use in practice (limited availability) or provide minimal benefits (e.g. trans-Tasman A320 services).
#33
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Programs: NZ *G
Posts: 411
I disagree about vouchers being no good (for me at least). One year the Elite gift was a short-haul recognition upgrade, and I liked it as I’ve got a 100% success rate using them on TT routes ex AKL. I’d much rather have this than nothing, or the insulting gift to charity.
Last edited by gratn; Dec 28, 2018 at 7:23 pm
#34
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,645
I disagree about vouchers being no good (for me at least). One year the Elite gift was a short-haul recognition upgrade, and I liked it as I’ve got a 100% success rate using them on TT routes ex AKL. I’d much rather have this than nothing, or the insulting gift to charity.
#35
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 6,114
It's still useful ex WLG or CHC though - yes Works Deluxe isn't PE but using the upgrade to go from seat only is handy especially when they can confirm it at time of booking.
#36
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 646
I disagree about vouchers being no good (for me at least). One year the Elite gift was a short-haul recognition upgrade, and I liked it as I’ve got a 100% success rate using them on TT routes ex AKL. I’d much rather have this than nothing, or the insulting gift to charity.
So nothing this year is an improvement.
A great gift would be a binding referendum on that "It's Kiwi Safety" video.
#38
Join Date: Dec 2013
Programs: NZ Airpoints GE, Qantas Platinum, Accor Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 962
After yet another delay on a regional trip - first flight cancelled, rebooked flight two hours late, I sent an 'I am fed up with your punctuality' email to customer relations. NZ response was yep, we are not hitting OTP but we are working on it. Not a sniff of any compensatory airpoints. Time for us to introduce an EU-style compensation scheme.
#39
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: NZ GE, QF
Posts: 390
After yet another delay on a regional trip - first flight cancelled, rebooked flight two hours late, I sent an 'I am fed up with your punctuality' email to customer relations. NZ response was yep, we are not hitting OTP but we are working on it. Not a sniff of any compensatory airpoints. Time for us to introduce an EU-style compensation scheme.
#40
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Programs: NZ *G
Posts: 411
Compensation in the EU is awesome, once the delay is (I think) 4 hours or more. I had a flight on Qatar Airways delayed by 3 hours ex Venice, and this delay meant I missed an onward connection in Doha to Auckland so needed to stay 24 hours in Doha . Qatar Airways provided a decent hotel, transfers, and hotel credit for meals. When I requested it, I also got 600€ in compensation pursuant to some European Regulation.
Something similar happened to me once ex Miami, and United put me in a terrible motel and refused any compensation.
Something similar happened to me once ex Miami, and United put me in a terrible motel and refused any compensation.
#41
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 646
OTP can be fiddled. I had an NZ flight delayed 2 or 3 hours a few years ago. The flight was then cancelled, then a new previously unknown one-off NZ flight number appeared on that same route, departing some hours later. If I had to guess, I would say, everyone on that cancelled flight was re-booked on the new one-off flight, probably on the same plane. If that isn't more magical than the oxygen mask on "Its a Kiwi Safety" video, I don't know what is.
#42
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 646
Xmas 2017 was the unilateral decision on "charity". Not all GE may have received the notification.
Elite Xmas Gift
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#43
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2,645
And then we get interesting things like delay attribution. What is the Airline's Fault Vs Airways Vs Weather Vs shared use facilities at Airport Vs Maintenance Faults Vs Bird Strike Faults etc
If AirNZ actually had an actual domestic competitor (JQ doesn't have the frequency to compete and the 3rd levels save WLG to Top of the South Island don't go head to head) or OneWorld or Skyteam set up a Pacific Rim to NZ competition plan. Things might change.
If fines were going to be a thing. AirNZ would play the card all the Turbo Props routes are too risky from an on time performance because of weather. So we will drop the region centres as when bake in the fines into the profitability of a route the numbers will no longer add up. Guess the Govt will blink first.
And say WLG/AKL which is a 1.45 cycle time (push back to push back) might go to 2 which drops utilisation, so there is enough fat to play catchup and will push the 1.05 flight time to 1.10 or 1.15. Which means higher fares as getting less flights out of the plane and the crew (and because no competitive pressure).
If AirNZ actually had an actual domestic competitor (JQ doesn't have the frequency to compete and the 3rd levels save WLG to Top of the South Island don't go head to head) or OneWorld or Skyteam set up a Pacific Rim to NZ competition plan. Things might change.
If fines were going to be a thing. AirNZ would play the card all the Turbo Props routes are too risky from an on time performance because of weather. So we will drop the region centres as when bake in the fines into the profitability of a route the numbers will no longer add up. Guess the Govt will blink first.
And say WLG/AKL which is a 1.45 cycle time (push back to push back) might go to 2 which drops utilisation, so there is enough fat to play catchup and will push the 1.05 flight time to 1.10 or 1.15. Which means higher fares as getting less flights out of the plane and the crew (and because no competitive pressure).