Air NZ Engineers Threaten 21-23 December Strike
Dec 6, 2018, 3:08 pm
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Air NZ Engineers Threaten 21-23 December Strike
Union wants strike to cause maximum disruption. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12172849
Lots of Akl-Wgtn Rtn travel booked either side of this for self, partner, daughters.
I imagine this will bleed into the "Crowded Lounges" threads.
Lots of Akl-Wgtn Rtn travel booked either side of this for self, partner, daughters.
I imagine this will bleed into the "Crowded Lounges" threads.
Dec 6, 2018, 4:04 pm
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21 Dec will be a busy day - I have 2x lads flying DUD-WLG in the morning.
Online chat staff simply noted that IF a strike proceeds then Contact Centre will reach out to affected passengers, although it was not clear if that contact would be with a solution (eg alternative day, same day alt route on ATR etc).
Until then, the usual fees for changes apply if one wanted to take the initiative to de-risk things.
Online chat staff simply noted that IF a strike proceeds then Contact Centre will reach out to affected passengers, although it was not clear if that contact would be with a solution (eg alternative day, same day alt route on ATR etc).
Until then, the usual fees for changes apply if one wanted to take the initiative to de-risk things.
Dec 6, 2018, 4:20 pm
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I see pretty much zero chance of it going ahead. The public backlash against the union is already in motion.
The implications and backlash over a full day strike that would essentially ground the airline would be too big for the union to cope with. That's precisely why Air NZ are effectively calling their bluff and going on the attack.
The implications and backlash over a full day strike that would essentially ground the airline would be too big for the union to cope with. That's precisely why Air NZ are effectively calling their bluff and going on the attack.
Dec 6, 2018, 6:09 pm
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Well, it's not without precedent. Recall when Joyce grounded the entire QF fleet in a standoff against their union? It worked out spectacularly for them.
Dec 6, 2018, 8:36 pm
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Well, it's not without precedent. Recall when Joyce grounded the entire QF fleet in a standoff against their union? It worked out spectacularly for them.
Dec 6, 2018, 10:26 pm
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Payback
Unions bought this Govt, now it’s payback time. On the face of the Airline side of the story the Engineers are pretty well looked after. Hi risk bargaining strategy and yes I agree AirNZ may well call the bluff. Mr Luxton seems well onside with Govt however. Should we expect further diminished Airpoints benefits if they get their way?
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Dec 6, 2018, 11:05 pm
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*eyeroll*
Unions bought this Govt, now it’s payback time. On the face of the Airline side of the story the Engineers are pretty well looked after. Hi risk bargaining strategy and yes I agree AirNZ may well call the bluff. Mr Luxton seems well onside with Govt however. Should we expect further diminished Airpoints benefits if they get their way?
Dec 6, 2018, 11:51 pm
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We're flying to Sydney that day, the tickets were very expensive. All I want to know is that Air NZ will look after us properly if we are disrupted, but judging by their performance with all the other disruptions we've experienced in the past year I'm not holding out much hope.
Dec 7, 2018, 1:48 am
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Dec 7, 2018, 2:48 am
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I'm flying AKL-WEL on the 21st so would be affected. Not that big a deal for me personally but given what I have read and heard on the radio about the engineers I would be fuming if it goes ahead. Public opinion definitely seems to be against the union and I think they have screwed up big time by trying to do this on what is probably one of the busiest travel days of the year.
Dec 7, 2018, 6:38 am
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Always 2 sides to the story...
(Had issues posting from NZ Herald source)
"This is not just about pay. It's about repeated proposals by the airline weeks out from Christmas to pay them less than colleagues who have already settled and to cut into key conditions, including overtime rates.
"This affects line and hangar engineers, but also store workers and aircraft cleaners, who are covered by the same document and who are struggling to get ahead," he said.
Cuts to pay or other conditions don’t generally go down well although I dislike them aiming for Xmas and maximal disruption.
I thought Luxon hired a company to mediate this type of stuff or at least that’s what I’d read previously.
Anyway, still time to sort and abort.
(Had issues posting from NZ Herald source)
"This is not just about pay. It's about repeated proposals by the airline weeks out from Christmas to pay them less than colleagues who have already settled and to cut into key conditions, including overtime rates.
"This affects line and hangar engineers, but also store workers and aircraft cleaners, who are covered by the same document and who are struggling to get ahead," he said.
Cuts to pay or other conditions don’t generally go down well although I dislike them aiming for Xmas and maximal disruption.
I thought Luxon hired a company to mediate this type of stuff or at least that’s what I’d read previously.
Anyway, still time to sort and abort.
