New safety video Nov 2018
Nov 27, 2018, 7:21 pm
#106
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So for anyone who is hard of hearing, depending on the flight they may not have titles or will need to be able to read the French, as trying to follow instructions in "rap English" isn't simple. I'm surprised the Human Rights Commission hasn't jumped on this.
Nov 27, 2018, 10:24 pm
#107
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Looking at some of Mr Jones' comments, I hope he hasn't got his videos mixed up...maybe confused with a video you might watch in say, a hotel room?
...I have never heard the F-word more frequently and they're not saying 'first class' Jones said.
Nov 27, 2018, 11:25 pm
#108
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I've had the "pleasure" of enduring this 10+ times now.
This comment may not go down well because I'm a foreign blowin to NZ and you might think i'm insulting your culture, but honestly I dont mean to, THIS VIDEO ISNT KIWI!
1. Rap,or RNB, or east\west coast hiphop, whatever, ISNT KIWI, its imitating African American musical culture. Now don't get me wrong, I grew up loving 2PAC, Snoop Dog and a few others, but I would never ever call that type of music Kiwi. Also, to me it sounds exactly like a sample of Run DMCs song, "Its trickaaaay". Or am I trippin?
2. If its supposed to be South\West Auckland culture, OK you've got some links there, but is that really Kiwi culture?
3. I saw two people on horses obviously from down south, yup, that to me looks Kiwi.
4. Randa...hmmm, Kings and Julian OK yeah Kiwi but again just cool kids covering American music right?
I flew Osaka-Auckland this week and I was the only non-Japanese in the J cabin. Their faces were actually hilarious, not a single clue what was going on! Now thats fine and somewhat funny, but what the hell are they going to do in an actual emergency? They have no idea where their lifejackets are and probably where the doors are...its all fun and games until we blow a tyre on landing or have a fast takeofff abort and all need to get off the plane asap, then what?
So sorry Air NZ, I'm totally for celebrating the culture of your wonderful country which has been great to me, but I don't think this video IS your culture, its borrowed American culture, with some south-island horses thrown in. Is what Kiwi? The poor cabin crew's faces said it all...
This comment may not go down well because I'm a foreign blowin to NZ and you might think i'm insulting your culture, but honestly I dont mean to, THIS VIDEO ISNT KIWI!
1. Rap,or RNB, or east\west coast hiphop, whatever, ISNT KIWI, its imitating African American musical culture. Now don't get me wrong, I grew up loving 2PAC, Snoop Dog and a few others, but I would never ever call that type of music Kiwi. Also, to me it sounds exactly like a sample of Run DMCs song, "Its trickaaaay". Or am I trippin?
2. If its supposed to be South\West Auckland culture, OK you've got some links there, but is that really Kiwi culture?
3. I saw two people on horses obviously from down south, yup, that to me looks Kiwi.
4. Randa...hmmm, Kings and Julian OK yeah Kiwi but again just cool kids covering American music right?
I flew Osaka-Auckland this week and I was the only non-Japanese in the J cabin. Their faces were actually hilarious, not a single clue what was going on! Now thats fine and somewhat funny, but what the hell are they going to do in an actual emergency? They have no idea where their lifejackets are and probably where the doors are...its all fun and games until we blow a tyre on landing or have a fast takeofff abort and all need to get off the plane asap, then what?
So sorry Air NZ, I'm totally for celebrating the culture of your wonderful country which has been great to me, but I don't think this video IS your culture, its borrowed American culture, with some south-island horses thrown in. Is what Kiwi? The poor cabin crew's faces said it all...
Nov 28, 2018, 2:43 am
#109
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Video apparently cost about $2.5m according to industry experts
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/bus...r-safety-video
That is a lot of crayfish.
Something about it on this morning's Breakfast Show
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainmen...t-embarrassing
Not much love for it there.
Jono and Ben skit on Air New Zealand safety video says it nicely.
Nov 28, 2018, 1:49 pm
#110
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Is it hopeful the revenue from all that youtube views could put prawns back on the menu or substitute with crayfish?
Video apparently cost about $2.5m according to industry experts
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/bus...r-safety-video
That is a lot of crayfish.
Something about it on this morning's Breakfast Show
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainmen...t-embarrassing
Not much love for it there.
Jono and Ben skit on Air New Zealand safety video says it nicely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPNTwq-zx-k
Video apparently cost about $2.5m according to industry experts
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/bus...r-safety-video
That is a lot of crayfish.
Something about it on this morning's Breakfast Show
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainmen...t-embarrassing
Not much love for it there.
Jono and Ben skit on Air New Zealand safety video says it nicely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPNTwq-zx-k
"I presume you can ask an air hostesses to redo the safety briefing after the video if you say you didn’t understand it? I’m sure if just a few people asked, it would disrupt the service to such an extent that the video would be pulled by the end of the day."
Nov 28, 2018, 9:50 pm
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Nov 29, 2018, 12:34 am
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Added: the meaning of the quoted portion above has been brought to my attention. Makes more sense now, lol.
Last edited by narvik; Nov 29, 2018 at 1:12 am
Nov 29, 2018, 1:03 am
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Originally Posted by benrox
Looking at some of Mr Jones' comments, I hope he hasn't got his videos mixed up...maybe confused with a video you might watch in say, a hotel room?
narvik - there is a back-story here you may not be aware of (benrox alluded to this):
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-scandal.html
Last edited by Thai-Kiwi; Nov 29, 2018 at 1:11 am
Nov 29, 2018, 8:15 pm
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CAA reponse to NZ’s video
“Dear Mr TK,
Thank you for contacting us with your concerns over Air New Zealand’s new safety video.
The CAA has reviewed the new Air New Zealand safety video and confirms that it meets the Civil Aviation Rule requirements for passenger briefing regarding safety and emergency procedures.
It is the operators responsibility to ensure they meet the rule. We do not have a rule that considers the creative aspects of a safety video.
We have taken on board your concerns and appreciate you raising them with us.
Kind regards,
xxxxxx
Cabin Safety Inspector
Air Transport Unit
Air Transport and Airworthiness”
Thank you for contacting us with your concerns over Air New Zealand’s new safety video.
The CAA has reviewed the new Air New Zealand safety video and confirms that it meets the Civil Aviation Rule requirements for passenger briefing regarding safety and emergency procedures.
It is the operators responsibility to ensure they meet the rule. We do not have a rule that considers the creative aspects of a safety video.
We have taken on board your concerns and appreciate you raising them with us.
Kind regards,
xxxxxx
Cabin Safety Inspector
Air Transport Unit
Air Transport and Airworthiness”
Nov 29, 2018, 10:32 pm
#116
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Similar response here:
"Dear Top of climb
Thank you for contacting us with your concerns over Air New Zealand’s new safety video.
The CAA reviewed the safety video to ensure that it complies with Civil Aviation Rule 91.211. From our review of the new Air New Zealand safety video, we confirm that it meets the Civil Aviation Rule requirements for passenger briefing regarding safety and emergency procedures.
It is the operators responsibility to ensure they meet the rule. At this time we assess the video as meeting the desired safety objective. This takes into account the combination of safety video verbal, visual and written messages, as well as the passenger safety briefing card.
We do not have a rule that considers the creative aspects of a safety video.
We have taken your comments on board and are prepared to review the video afresh with these in mind."
"Dear Top of climb
Thank you for contacting us with your concerns over Air New Zealand’s new safety video.
The CAA reviewed the safety video to ensure that it complies with Civil Aviation Rule 91.211. From our review of the new Air New Zealand safety video, we confirm that it meets the Civil Aviation Rule requirements for passenger briefing regarding safety and emergency procedures.
It is the operators responsibility to ensure they meet the rule. At this time we assess the video as meeting the desired safety objective. This takes into account the combination of safety video verbal, visual and written messages, as well as the passenger safety briefing card.
We do not have a rule that considers the creative aspects of a safety video.
We have taken your comments on board and are prepared to review the video afresh with these in mind."
Nov 29, 2018, 10:38 pm
#117
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Similar response here:
"Dear Top of climb
Thank you for contacting us with your concerns over Air New Zealand’s new safety video.
The CAA reviewed the safety video to ensure that it complies with Civil Aviation Rule 91.211. From our review of the new Air New Zealand safety video, we confirm that it meets the Civil Aviation Rule requirements for passenger briefing regarding safety and emergency procedures.
It is the operators responsibility to ensure they meet the rule. At this time we assess the video as meeting the desired safety objective. This takes into account the combination of safety video verbal, visual and written messages, as well as the passenger safety briefing card.
We do not have a rule that considers the creative aspects of a safety video.
We have taken your comments on board and are prepared to review the video afresh with these in mind."
"Dear Top of climb
Thank you for contacting us with your concerns over Air New Zealand’s new safety video.
The CAA reviewed the safety video to ensure that it complies with Civil Aviation Rule 91.211. From our review of the new Air New Zealand safety video, we confirm that it meets the Civil Aviation Rule requirements for passenger briefing regarding safety and emergency procedures.
It is the operators responsibility to ensure they meet the rule. At this time we assess the video as meeting the desired safety objective. This takes into account the combination of safety video verbal, visual and written messages, as well as the passenger safety briefing card.
We do not have a rule that considers the creative aspects of a safety video.
We have taken your comments on board and are prepared to review the video afresh with these in mind."
Nov 29, 2018, 11:57 pm
#118
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LOL. I am shocked you guys thought it might actually be in violation of any rules. I am 99.99% sure that Air NZ will get any relevant authorities to give it the A-OK before they actually use it on planes.
If you want to report it out of spite go ahead. If you personally disagree with the rules and think they should be different that is fine. But there was no way that Air NZ was actually in violation of the existing standards/requirements.
As much as I think the video is cringeworthy and hilarious to mock... I feel as though some people are almost personally offended by this. I can safely say as a kiwi, as unkiwi as this is, I don't find it offensive. I just find it embarrassing for Air NZ.
If you want to report it out of spite go ahead. If you personally disagree with the rules and think they should be different that is fine. But there was no way that Air NZ was actually in violation of the existing standards/requirements.
As much as I think the video is cringeworthy and hilarious to mock... I feel as though some people are almost personally offended by this. I can safely say as a kiwi, as unkiwi as this is, I don't find it offensive. I just find it embarrassing for Air NZ.
Nov 30, 2018, 12:19 am
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Nov 30, 2018, 12:38 am
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LOL. I am shocked you guys thought it might actually be in violation of any rules. I am 99.99% sure that Air NZ will get any relevant authorities to give it the A-OK before they actually use it on planes.
If you want to report it out of spite go ahead. If you personally disagree with the rules and think they should be different that is fine. But there was no way that Air NZ was actually in violation of the existing standards/requirements.
As much as I think the video is cringeworthy and hilarious to mock... I feel as though some people are almost personally offended by this. I can safely say as a kiwi, as unkiwi as this is, I don't find it offensive. I just find it embarrassing for Air NZ.
If you want to report it out of spite go ahead. If you personally disagree with the rules and think they should be different that is fine. But there was no way that Air NZ was actually in violation of the existing standards/requirements.
As much as I think the video is cringeworthy and hilarious to mock... I feel as though some people are almost personally offended by this. I can safely say as a kiwi, as unkiwi as this is, I don't find it offensive. I just find it embarrassing for Air NZ.
Well, you didn't see what I wrote, so please don't make any assumptions on the nature of the points I raised with CAA, and particularly make any assumption that this was done "out of spite" - this makes your own comments irrelevant to a mature discussion on aviation safety.
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