Skytrax - Best Premium Economy
Jul 17, 2018, 2:05 pm
#1
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Skytrax - Best Premium Economy
Air New Zealand has just picked up the best Premium Economy award from the 2018 Skytrax World Airline Awards.
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...my-class-2018/
Also was ranked 17th in the 2018 Worlds Top 100 Airlines up from 19th last year.
Well done to the Air NZ team - punching above our weight yet again!
https://www.worldairlineawards.com/w...my-class-2018/
Also was ranked 17th in the 2018 Worlds Top 100 Airlines up from 19th last year.
Well done to the Air NZ team - punching above our weight yet again!
Jul 17, 2018, 2:23 pm
#3
Join Date: Nov 2017
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I really don't understand why people care that it comes in a plastic cup?
Glad to see that Air NZ gets the recognition it deserves for PE.
Almost booked VA in PE earlier this year... glad I didn't.
Glad to see that Air NZ gets the recognition it deserves for PE.
Almost booked VA in PE earlier this year... glad I didn't.
Jul 17, 2018, 3:09 pm
#4
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Because the plastic cup cheapens the entire experience, especially for bubbly.
Not to mention due to biosecurity issues on international flights I'm pretty sure all the plastic cups are still simply dumped in landfills so it's not as though they're even recycled (not that China wants NZs plastic waste now anyway). For an airline that has a focus on sustainability and can even cull prawns from their menu as a result, handing out more plastic when a glass that can be washed could be used seems a little strange.
Not to mention due to biosecurity issues on international flights I'm pretty sure all the plastic cups are still simply dumped in landfills so it's not as though they're even recycled (not that China wants NZs plastic waste now anyway). For an airline that has a focus on sustainability and can even cull prawns from their menu as a result, handing out more plastic when a glass that can be washed could be used seems a little strange.
Jul 17, 2018, 4:56 pm
#5
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Because the plastic cup cheapens the entire experience, especially for bubbly.
Not to mention due to biosecurity issues on international flights I'm pretty sure all the plastic cups are still simply dumped in landfills so it's not as though they're even recycled (not that China wants NZs plastic waste now anyway). For an airline that has a focus on sustainability and can even cull prawns from their menu as a result, handing out more plastic when a glass that can be washed could be used seems a little strange.
Not to mention due to biosecurity issues on international flights I'm pretty sure all the plastic cups are still simply dumped in landfills so it's not as though they're even recycled (not that China wants NZs plastic waste now anyway). For an airline that has a focus on sustainability and can even cull prawns from their menu as a result, handing out more plastic when a glass that can be washed could be used seems a little strange.
Jul 17, 2018, 5:02 pm
#6
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PE welcome drink is typically done straight after take-off - which really cheapens the whole product, when only minutes later you then get an drink in real glass.
Jul 17, 2018, 5:16 pm
#7
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The plastic cup is only to save on glassware - nothing else. Obviously using glass would mean anther 21-54 glasses depending on the aircraft as during subsequent drink and meal services many people don't change glasses.
Jul 17, 2018, 5:37 pm
#8
Join Date: Jan 2011
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And maybe save weight?
I miss the white linen! I remember them when PE was first introduced. That was classy.
No prizes for Business Class huh? I guess the aisle facing herringbone layout with LED laser beam light in your eye from opposite seat, did no favours for NZ ... : p
I miss the white linen! I remember them when PE was first introduced. That was classy.
No prizes for Business Class huh? I guess the aisle facing herringbone layout with LED laser beam light in your eye from opposite seat, did no favours for NZ ... : p
Jul 17, 2018, 7:33 pm
#9
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Skytrax awards are scoffed at by many in the industry (as are many of the awards from other sites such as airlineratings) due to the methodology involved. I really don't think you can really directly compare the product or service between many airlines, especially when there are different cultures involved. Many people for example see the laid back hospitality on NZ as a big plus, yet you'd have other people see this as poor.
Jul 17, 2018, 7:45 pm
#10
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Skytrax awards are scoffed at by many in the industry (as are many of the awards from other sites such as airlineratings) due to the methodology involved. I really don't think you can really directly compare the product or service between many airlines, especially when there are different cultures involved. Many people for example see the laid back hospitality on NZ as a big plus, yet you'd have other people see this as poor.
Jul 17, 2018, 8:15 pm
#11
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Like all awards the people that win them rave about them while the ones that don't win just go on about how meaningless they are.
Jul 17, 2018, 8:34 pm
#12
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Probably correct. A third class of service was installed and reconfigured on what was originally a two class aircraft with a finite amount of space. Overlook this one small detail realizing that it is not Business Class and their PE is pretty decent.
Jul 18, 2018, 6:22 pm
#13
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Because the plastic cup cheapens the entire experience, especially for bubbly.
Not to mention due to biosecurity issues on international flights I'm pretty sure all the plastic cups are still simply dumped in landfills so it's not as though they're even recycled (not that China wants NZs plastic waste now anyway). For an airline that has a focus on sustainability and can even cull prawns from their menu as a result, handing out more plastic when a glass that can be washed could be used seems a little strange.
Not to mention due to biosecurity issues on international flights I'm pretty sure all the plastic cups are still simply dumped in landfills so it's not as though they're even recycled (not that China wants NZs plastic waste now anyway). For an airline that has a focus on sustainability and can even cull prawns from their menu as a result, handing out more plastic when a glass that can be washed could be used seems a little strange.
I think that's taking it a bit far. Granted there are apparent differences in taste in the air, and in certain glasses but we're talking one drink on a plane here.
Agree with the recycling issue though and that may well be a driver for change in the future.
Jul 18, 2018, 7:28 pm
#14
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Cheapens the "entire" experience?
I think that's taking it a bit far. Granted there are apparent differences in taste in the air, and in certain glasses but we're talking one drink on a plane here.
Agree with the recycling issue though and that may well be a driver for change in the future.
I think that's taking it a bit far. Granted there are apparent differences in taste in the air, and in certain glasses but we're talking one drink on a plane here.
Agree with the recycling issue though and that may well be a driver for change in the future.
Jul 18, 2018, 7:29 pm
#15
Join Date: Feb 2007
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PE has its own full size galley on the 77E is between 2L/R, on the 77W its between 3L/R and on the 789s its between 2L/R.
