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Does Anyone Know When Air NZ Is Receiving Itís First A320 Neo?

Does Anyone Know When Air NZ Is Receiving Itís First A320 Neo?

Old Jun 12, 18, 7:11 am
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Does Anyone Know When Air NZ Is Receiving Itís First A320 Neo?

I believe it was July of this year but havenít heard anything else since the delivery was delayed last year.
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Old Jun 12, 18, 10:19 am
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Looks like three A321’s have got production numbers at least:

https://a320archive.com/msn/8496

https://a320archive.com/msn/8542

https://a320archive.com/msn/8573

I couldn’t see any of the A320’s in that list though.

Given current deliveries seem to be around MSN 8200, and in May they delivered 41 A320 family aircraft - if I was to take a guess it might be towards the end of the year or early next year when those ones are ready?
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Old Jun 12, 18, 12:42 pm
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The A320neo aircraft were never planned to arrive until 2019.

First A321neo was due this time last year but delayed by engine issues and then the decision to switch to the flexi cabin config. The first two are due here in time for the Virgin divorce in October with construction of the first one having just started.
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Old Jun 12, 18, 8:33 pm
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So NZ must be up there quiet early in the list for deliveryís for the new space flex door config?
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Old Jun 12, 18, 9:53 pm
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Originally Posted by sbiddle View Post
Tand then the decision to switch to the flexi cabin config.
What is a flexi cabin configuration? Sounds interesting
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Old Jun 12, 18, 10:06 pm
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What is a flexi cabin configuration? Sounds interesting
This has some pictures https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2016/0...21neo-layouts/

Basically delete door 2 to make a larger forward cabin. Add an extra over wing exit (1 to 2). Having no break where door 2 is means one or two rows more seating.

Then also a redesigned rear galley means it can move further back into the pressure bulkhead giving more room for rear toilets etc and more rows in cabin.

Also an option to deactivate doors 3 or 4 which decreases overall seating but allows for differing layouts
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Old Jun 12, 18, 11:58 pm
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Also do know with the A321s are they going to get any LRs? I can't find range states for the Flex and just wondering if the Flex will keep Perth range say for year round Chc Per? Or do you need Flex plus LR to keep that range?
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Old Jun 13, 18, 4:46 am
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Also do know with the A321s are they going to get any LRs? I can't find range states for the Flex and just wondering if the Flex will keep Perth range say for year round Chc Per? Or do you need Flex plus LR to keep that range?
Will depend allot on how many seats they end up with on the 321NEO there has been talk of around 220, although this version is allowed up to 240 pax.

Peak season to PER probably needs J/PE, maybe an A320NEO would be an better bit off peak.
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Old Jun 13, 18, 4:51 am
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There is way too much money to be from PER with premium seating to put a A320/A321 on the route.
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Old Jun 13, 18, 5:33 am
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There is way too much money to be from PER with premium seating to put a A320/A321 on the route.
So really sucks they ruled out a couple of rows of 2-2 PE seating on the A321s. Suppose wanted to keep commonality with the A320s for simpler up and downguage as needed plus being able to run them domestically. And guess means can do a simpler galley?

Would allow them to better compete with QF and VA out of Wellington and such.
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Old Jun 13, 18, 5:36 am
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk View Post


Will depend allot on how many seats they end up with on the 321NEO there has been talk of around 220, although this version is allowed up to 240 pax.

Peak season to PER probably needs J/PE, maybe an A320NEO would be an better bit off peak.
240 I think is minimal pitch. 220 I think is comparable pitch to current. Though think they are bringing down the thickness of the seat so they might be able to reduce pitch and keep front edge of seat to back of seat infront distance the same.
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Old Jun 14, 18, 12:03 am
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In the investor presentation today it indicated the A321 NEO would be 214 seats and be used for larger markets such as AKL-MEL/SYD and the Pacific Islands, with the 165 seat A320 NEO used for WEL-SYD and CHC-MEL
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Old Jun 14, 18, 12:16 am
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In the investor presentation today it indicated the A321 NEO would be 214 seats and be used for larger markets such as AKL-MEL/SYD and the Pacific Islands, with the 165 seat A320 NEO used for WEL-SYD and CHC-MEL
165 so 3 less than current. Wonder if the right hand side will start at row 2 like the domestic ones, offering FF seating down the right hand side as well?
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Old Jun 14, 18, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Rebound View Post
In the investor presentation today it indicated the A321 NEO would be 214 seats and be used for larger markets such as AKL-MEL/SYD and the Pacific Islands, with the 165 seat A320 NEO used for WEL-SYD and CHC-MEL
NZ Investor Presentation 2018

Also on page 40 - it seems to imply for an further feature A321NEO order for domestic. (Also features the 321NEO seat map for NZ).
Then on page 55 this is an note to 'domestic capex' for purchases A320/321NEO's.

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Old Jun 14, 18, 2:02 am
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Anyone figured out the colour key?

For the A321
Pink FF seating
Yellow Exit row
Grey Exit row no recline?
Purple?
Green section?
Orange Galley

38 and 39 look like reduce width

Only three toilets guess why they are showing a domestic A320 not a TT one which has three Toilets for 168pax
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