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NZbutterfly May 31, 2018 6:33 pm

Air NZ to codeshare with Qantas
 
Sky News just announced NZ and QF are codesharing QF 115 domestic routes across NZ and Oz. The whole VA relationship must really have gone south!!

Be interesting to see the details from articles when they flow through.
Keen to hear the implications for FFP benefits.

Edit: https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-air-...tm_source=hero

2nd Edit: https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/pres...codeshare-deal

Aspen May 31, 2018 6:45 pm

This sort of thing doesn't just happen overnight so there must have been a plan to end the ANZ ties with Virgin Australia for some time.


Story developing here as well:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...01-p4ziu0.html

cavemanzk May 31, 2018 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by NZbutterfly (Post 29815282)
Be interesting to see the details from articles when they flow through.
Keen to hear the implications for FFP benefits.

From AUSBT Qantas and Air New Zealand business class passengers and frequent flyers will enjoy reciprocal lounge access, and is also expected to see the ability to earn points and status credits in each airline's respective loyalty program on flights booked under the appropriate codeshare.

Mwenenzi May 31, 2018 7:34 pm

The QF thread with the QF news release: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qant...eshare-nz.html

<snip>
The codeshare and customer offering will exclude Trans-Tasman flights. Qantas will continue to codeshare on all connecting Jetstar New Zealand services
<snip>
But as a frequent TT traveller I expects prices to rise

Xiaotung May 31, 2018 7:35 pm

NZ changed the wording on their VA page from "may not accrue APD/SP after 27 Oct" to " will not accrue" this morning.

Believe NZ had been talking to both VA and QF about cooperation on domestic network only. Perhaps VA told them not interested. A big mistake!

dadig May 31, 2018 7:36 pm

Makes deciding flight times easier, am glad this for the better. The benefits were highly aligned to VF passengers for far too long.

sopwith7 May 31, 2018 7:52 pm

This is great for me flying TT from WLG and doing lots of business in regional Australia. VA's regional schedules and routes were quite limiting, and will be nice to have access to QF domestic lounges. Hoping for SP on QF domestic, but not holding my breath.

NZ_Flyer May 31, 2018 8:07 pm

Not bad at all. Hopefully Elite get access to QF Domestic Business lounges!

NZbutterfly May 31, 2018 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by sopwith7 (Post 29815477)
This is great for me flying TT from WLG and doing lots of business in regional Australia. VA's regional schedules and routes were quite limiting, and will be nice to have access to QF domestic lounges. Hoping for SP on QF domestic, but not holding my breath.

Might be one of those articles but I did read it included reciprocal SP/SC earn which NZ never had with VA. Was only APD. I think the most I ever earned in economy was 4 APD so I'm expecting SP earn to be abysmal. So I wouldn't get your hopes up.


Originally Posted by NZ_Flyer (Post 29815518)
Not bad at all. Hopefully Elite get access to QF Domestic Business lounges!

If they're going to go like for like then Elite should get the domestic business lounges. I expect EP1 to get Chairmans Lounge, and NZ Gold and Koru to access the Qantas club for the Qantas club members and their own gold members.

oranjemakker May 31, 2018 8:53 pm

Would this only apply if you booked a connecting domestic flight from a TT or would you also be able to book a domestic flight in NZ (without a connecting QF TT flight) on its own and earn QF credits?

Mwenenzi May 31, 2018 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by oranjemakker (Post 29815642)
Would this only apply if you booked a connecting domestic flight from a TT or would you also be able to book a domestic flight in NZ (without a connecting QF TT flight) on its own and earn QF credits?

The fine details have not been announced

Xiaotung May 31, 2018 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by NZbutterfly (Post 29815595)
Might be one of those articles but I did read it included reciprocal SP/SC earn which NZ never had with VA. Was only APD. I think the most I ever earned in economy was 4 APD so I'm expecting SP earn to be abysmal. So I wouldn't get your hopes up.

I think the article may be referring to earning Status in QFF for NZ domestic flights. QFF usually allows Status earning on non-oneworld partners booked on QF code.

Nathan Catton May 31, 2018 9:45 pm

What is slightly peculiar about this agreement is that the code share will apply to 30 domestic New Zealand destinations yet there are only 20?

Mwenenzi May 31, 2018 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by Nathan Catton (Post 29815764)
What is slightly peculiar about this agreement is that the code share will apply to 30 domestic New Zealand destinations yet there are only 20?

30 flights or routes?

nzkarit May 31, 2018 9:49 pm

My guess it is flights as flights get code shares and not routes. And normally the code shares will only link to/form with the international flights.


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