TxTraveler18

We received an email on August 31 notifying us that our flight to Auckland would be impacted by the leased aircraft. However, our route is LAX - AKL (with a trip from IAH-LAX on United to connect). However - there is no listing of our flight NZ5 being impacted by the leased aircraft. The operators at Air New Zealand aren't sure. Was it just emailed in error or is the LAX - AKL route impacted?

nzkarit

With some recent flights to Perth I found the emails etc ahead of updates on the site. There seems to be many independent systems that need updating and the change does not propagate through all the system automatically.

princeville

When is your flight? I recently booked my husband on NZ6 AKL-LAX for early January. When I selected the flight a pop-up window came up informing me this flight would be operated by an EVA 777, even though the travel alert page does not state that this route will be affected (https://www.airnewzealand.com/travel-alerts). The later flight (NZ2) did not have the same warning and also said that skycouch is available, so it seems they plan to use their own metal for that flight. You could go to NZ's website and search on your date and see if you get the same message, but if your flight isn't within a few weeks, I assume this could all change anyway. Are you able to select seats?

I also booked AKL-PPT recently and did not receive the pop-up message, but since booking it has changed from a 777 to 787 and I was able to buy a skycouch after the change (which I couldn't while originally booking), but the travel alert says this *is* an impacted route during that timeframe.

sbiddle

The EVA 77W was scheduled to fly NZ5/NZ6 services from late October and this was on the Air NZ travel alerts page about a month ago. It would seem like so many fleet changes at present that constant change occurs and nothing is guaranteed!

sbiddle

Here's the announcement on routesonline https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-29aug18/

jeffrocowboy

seemed to gave dodged this substitituion by sheer luck - chose NZ1 instead on one of the affected days (without doing any research!)

sbiddle

May not be happening now though, it's not on the Air NZ website any longer.

I had been told it was going to end up on AKL-YVR, but even that's only listed for short periods of time.

24left

​​​​​​​I'll assume that Bloomberg didn't read that report then.

sbiddle

Lol. You'd hope they had.

The figure quoted by Luxon in the analyst call and in the annual results presentation was "between $30 - $40 million"

24left

I forgot to include an emoji at the end of my post.




As for the fan blades deteriorating faster that first thought etc, I was speaking with a couple of pilots in HKG recently, and one quoted me data on the serious impact this is having on NZ, saying it was disproportionately more than some of the other airlines with these engines. He mentioned the number of NZ aircraft affected relative to fleet size.

Question for you, and the forum:
While RR is paying some of the costs related to the repairs/replacement of the engine parts and perhaps the leasing costs for the BR and SQ aircraft (?), could RR run out of money to pay for all this and of the costs paid by NZ, will fares have to rise to cover it all?

Thanks.
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nzkarit

RR and AirNZ would both have insurance to cover this so won't run out of money per se. So if(/when) their insurance costs go up there will be a knock effect. the RR one will be slower as AirNZ won't see the price hike until they have to renew the leases on the engines. (Pretty the Trents on are on pay by the hour contract opposed to owned)

sbiddle

The impact is disproportionately significant for NZ (and LATAM as well) primarily due to their long flights and reliance on ETDO operations.

Rebound

My Fiji flight has just changed from 772's to the Eva Air Plane - notified via email. This is after it has been retimed twice. The PE looks far inferior to the seats on the 772.

cavemanzk

The PE seats are the same - just different seat covers and soft-fittings.

henrus

Someone has been forgetting to update the fleet page with all these new aircraft NZ is receiving... Don't worry Air NZ, I've got your back and I've done it for you






Obviously, the above image is a joke and didn't make an appearance in this month magazine