Any reason to increase oneup?
Apr 26, 2017, 6:15 pm
#1
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Any reason to increase oneup?
I got one of those "We are reviewing flight upgrade requests and noticed you have made a low offer for your flight..." OneUp emails for SFO-AKL. Does anyone have any data on what the best move is here?
I *didn't* get one of these emails for an AKL-IAH flight where I had made a higher offer that didn't clear, which may or may not mean anything.
On a quick look at the seat map (just looking as if I were buying a new ticket) there are 37 open Y seats, 9 in PE and 6 in J.
I *didn't* get one of these emails for an AKL-IAH flight where I had made a higher offer that didn't clear, which may or may not mean anything.
On a quick look at the seat map (just looking as if I were buying a new ticket) there are 37 open Y seats, 9 in PE and 6 in J.
Apr 26, 2017, 6:30 pm
#2
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: NZ
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Well it's all anecdotal so it's hard to offer data-backed advice.
On one hand, it's pure profiteering to incite you to up your bid. On the other hand, if everyone else who gets that email stays put, then an extra 10NZD could be what pushes yours to the front.
My advice would be to make a trivial increase.
On one hand, it's pure profiteering to incite you to up your bid. On the other hand, if everyone else who gets that email stays put, then an extra 10NZD could be what pushes yours to the front.
My advice would be to make a trivial increase.
Apr 26, 2017, 8:39 pm
#3
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I would say SFO-AKL should be easier to clear compared to AKL-SFO. Seems Y-PE are more likely to clear compared to PE-J
Check the one up success rates thread for data points
Check the one up success rates thread for data points
Apr 27, 2017, 2:15 pm
#4
Join Date: Jun 2016
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I just received one of those "We are reviewing flight upgrade requests and noticed you have made a low offer for your flight..." emails for a flight I have next week AKL to LAX. I made a low ball $350 offer with Airpoints, not expecting to get upgraded.
I currently have 2 seats in Y, and there is zero availability in PE (it's sold out) so I'm guessing these emails just go out to everybody regardless of the chances of actually scoring an upgrade.
I currently have 2 seats in Y, and there is zero availability in PE (it's sold out) so I'm guessing these emails just go out to everybody regardless of the chances of actually scoring an upgrade.
Apr 27, 2017, 2:29 pm
#5
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Auckland
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I just received one of those "We are reviewing flight upgrade requests and noticed you have made a low offer for your flight..." emails for a flight I have next week AKL to LAX. I made a low ball $350 offer with Airpoints, not expecting to get upgraded.
I currently have 2 seats in Y, and there is zero availability in PE (it's sold out) so I'm guessing these emails just go out to everybody regardless of the chances of actually scoring an upgrade.
I currently have 2 seats in Y, and there is zero availability in PE (it's sold out) so I'm guessing these emails just go out to everybody regardless of the chances of actually scoring an upgrade.
Apr 27, 2017, 3:04 pm
#6
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I'm really surprised there are so many people in here using OneUp's still. Considering the number of Elite's now I just assumed everybody knows one. 🙂
Apr 27, 2017, 8:15 pm
#9
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Apr 27, 2017, 8:23 pm
#11
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That or it falls into a very grey area...
Apr 27, 2017, 8:27 pm
#12
Join Date: Dec 2013
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These upgrades also takes priority over any OneUps, even if you are the lowest Jade member.
They also cost less than the starting minimum bid allowed for OneUps (with the exception of TT short haul Y->J, with OneUps starting at NZ$200 usually).
On international long-haul routes:
Y -> PE = 220 Airpoints Dollars
PE -> J = 480 APD
On Trans Tasman short-haul routes:
Y -> PE = 100 APD
PE -> J = 150 APD
Y -> J = 250 APD
The only time a NZ Elite would contemplate OneUp over E-APD is for the aforementioned TT short-haul Y->J at NZ$200 instead of 250APD, and most often cleared as well.
Apr 27, 2017, 8:33 pm
#13
Join Date: Apr 2017
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NZ Elite members have the ability to lodge "Elite Airpoints Dollars Upgrade" (commonly abbreviated as E-APD around here), which are fixed costs upgrade to go from Y to PE, or PE to J (1 cabin class upgrade only for all long-haul routes, with the exception of short hauls).
These upgrades also takes priority over any OneUps, even if you are the lowest Jade member.
They also cost less than the starting minimum bid allowed for OneUps (with the exception of TT short haul Y->J, with OneUps starting at NZ$200 usually).
On international long-haul routes:
Y -> PE = 220 Airpoints Dollars
PE -> J = 480 APD
On Trans Tasman short-haul routes:
Y -> PE = 100 APD
PE -> J = 150 APD
Y -> J = 250 APD
The only time a NZ Elite would contemplate OneUp over E-APD is for the aforementioned TT short-haul Y->J at NZ$200 instead of 250APD, and most often cleared as well.
These upgrades also takes priority over any OneUps, even if you are the lowest Jade member.
They also cost less than the starting minimum bid allowed for OneUps (with the exception of TT short haul Y->J, with OneUps starting at NZ$200 usually).
On international long-haul routes:
Y -> PE = 220 Airpoints Dollars
PE -> J = 480 APD
On Trans Tasman short-haul routes:
Y -> PE = 100 APD
PE -> J = 150 APD
Y -> J = 250 APD
The only time a NZ Elite would contemplate OneUp over E-APD is for the aforementioned TT short-haul Y->J at NZ$200 instead of 250APD, and most often cleared as well.
Apr 27, 2017, 8:36 pm
#14
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NZ Elites can also gift RUs or E-APDs to those on their gifting register, so knowing an Elite means, you can ask them (nicely perhaps) to lodge an E-APD upgrade for you, and said upgrade will take precedence over any OneUps.
Apr 27, 2017, 8:40 pm
#15
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Due to this being heavily exploited it's also one of the reasons the ability to buy Airpoints Dollars with OneSmart was not carried over from the BNZ to Travelex product.
It wouldn't surprise me to see further clampdowns on this as it's now only available on the Air New Zealand Airpoints credit card... On the other hand maybe they'll see it as a selling point for the KB cards.
It wouldn't surprise me to see further clampdowns on this as it's now only available on the Air New Zealand Airpoints credit card... On the other hand maybe they'll see it as a selling point for the KB cards.