Ever been stopped while boarding at the gate?
#16
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Never use the machines on arrival to the US as it is a waste of time.
#17
Join Date: Apr 2013
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As mentioned if it was a new ESTA you can't use the kiosks. Next time it should be fine.
But even when you do end up successfully using the kiosks, you'll still end up talking to a CBP agent.
The US don't use anything remotely close to SmartGate, the kiosks don't even read your passport chip.
But even when you do end up successfully using the kiosks, you'll still end up talking to a CBP agent.
The US don't use anything remotely close to SmartGate, the kiosks don't even read your passport chip.
The only thing that annoys me in that at SFO returning ESTA visitors can head right and use the US citizens kiosks and screening. At LAX you can't.
#18
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#19
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Secondary screening has always occured at AKL for US flights. A few years ago you used to have to show your passport and boarding pass again before you got to the gate and randomly selected people on each flight were marked on their manifests to undergo this.
I'm guessing that process has changed now.
I'm guessing that process has changed now.
#22
Join Date: Jun 2015
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The passport check at AKL was just to make sure your ESTA/visa is in order, it had nothing to do with the X on your receipt when entering the US.
As for the X, there are a lot of reasons why you could get it. Every APC receipt has a 2 letter code that explains the result. Codes that require additional scrutiny by a CBP officer give you the X. The codes are:
PG = Passage Granted
ER = Enforcement Referral (you're on a list)
DR = Declaration Referral (you answered yes to any customs declaration question)
AP = APIS Problem (your name wasn't found on the manifest of any arriving aircraft)
EA = Entry Authorization (you inserted a non-US or Canadian passport and don't have a valid ESTA or visa)
BF = Biometric Failure (your fingerprints don't match, or this is your first time visiting and CBP doesn't have your fingerprints on file)
CD = Check Documentation (your passport is expiring in less than 6 months, or you inserted a US passport or green card and the kiosk couldn't verify its validity)
TR = Technical Referral (miscellaneous issues, or kiosk not working properly)
Even if you get Passage Granted and no X you still have to see a CBP officer to talk about your trip, though you will usually be processed much more quickly than if you did have an X. The purpose of the kiosks is to automate the process of taking fingerprints and checking your passport against ESTA/visa, API, and watchlist data. The kiosks don't replace the screening done by CBP officers, rather they allow officers to focus more on the parts of the screening that can't be done by a computer. The only way to get a SmartGate style experience in the US and avoid talking to a human is with Global Entry.
As for the X, there are a lot of reasons why you could get it. Every APC receipt has a 2 letter code that explains the result. Codes that require additional scrutiny by a CBP officer give you the X. The codes are:
PG = Passage Granted
ER = Enforcement Referral (you're on a list)
DR = Declaration Referral (you answered yes to any customs declaration question)
AP = APIS Problem (your name wasn't found on the manifest of any arriving aircraft)
EA = Entry Authorization (you inserted a non-US or Canadian passport and don't have a valid ESTA or visa)
BF = Biometric Failure (your fingerprints don't match, or this is your first time visiting and CBP doesn't have your fingerprints on file)
CD = Check Documentation (your passport is expiring in less than 6 months, or you inserted a US passport or green card and the kiosk couldn't verify its validity)
TR = Technical Referral (miscellaneous issues, or kiosk not working properly)
Even if you get Passage Granted and no X you still have to see a CBP officer to talk about your trip, though you will usually be processed much more quickly than if you did have an X. The purpose of the kiosks is to automate the process of taking fingerprints and checking your passport against ESTA/visa, API, and watchlist data. The kiosks don't replace the screening done by CBP officers, rather they allow officers to focus more on the parts of the screening that can't be done by a computer. The only way to get a SmartGate style experience in the US and avoid talking to a human is with Global Entry.
Last edited by Kumulani; Apr 4, 2017 at 8:40 pm
#23
Join Date: Feb 2004
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The APC just rejects me with a message that the passport isn't valid for long enough whenever I try to enter with a passport that has less than 6 months to run. Oh well, APEC card as backup. Albeit at LAX the APEC line can be extremely long because it is shared with Crew .
#25
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#26
Join Date: Apr 2013
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The APC just rejects me with a message that the passport isn't valid for long enough whenever I try to enter with a passport that has less than 6 months to run. Oh well, APEC card as backup. Albeit at LAX the APEC line can be extremely long because it is shared with Crew .
#30
Join Date: Jan 2012
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I check in online here in Chc. Can bypass the checkin (I only travel with carry on). Never an issue with scanners at border control. However, the lounge will not/cannot verify passport so this needs to be done at gate. When I'm flying back from Syd or BNE, I also check in online, print BP and no worries, the lounge ladies print new BP.
I did get a reprimand last week for not having a BP (forgot to check in), but that was from lounge staff. No effect on immigration scanners.
I did get a reprimand last week for not having a BP (forgot to check in), but that was from lounge staff. No effect on immigration scanners.