New routes to be announced?
Nov 6, 2015, 2:53 pm
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A Regional big possibility is CBR no one services this route to NZ but the logical destination is WLG - otherwise Longhaul will most likely be with a codeshare with local carrier - Thai, Air India and Asiana etc... MNL and Vietnam are always possibilities but the local alliance is more complex. Interesting times ahead.
Nov 6, 2015, 3:51 pm
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A Regional big possibility is CBR no one services this route to NZ but the logical destination is WLG - otherwise Longhaul will most likely be with a codeshare with local carrier - Thai, Air India and Asiana etc... MNL and Vietnam are always possibilities but the local alliance is more complex. Interesting times ahead.
ORD speculated before with Luxon around the time of IAH.
MNL has been worked on, the air services agreement has also been changed between the countries. I think it may even be going to 767 not a 787 to start with.
CBR-WLG why is this logical? There really is not that much traffic from WLG to CBR, most agencies that I know talk to their state counterparts rather than the commonwealth, of course there are some like defence that do.
Nov 6, 2015, 4:28 pm
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MNL seems less likely to me. There is demand from the local Filipino community, but at the low end in terms of fares, and with PR launching MNL-CNS-AKL soon I think they will mop up a lot of that market. The rest is pretty well served over HKG , admittedly with a bit of a backtrack.
Nov 6, 2015, 7:32 pm
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Nov 6, 2015, 11:24 pm
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Nov 7, 2015, 12:42 am
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ORD (and some of its catchment) is already only 1 stop to AKL with several routing options.
Nov 7, 2015, 2:09 am
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ORD would cannibalise the (not even started yet) IAH route. Maybe in a few years if NZ-US traffic continues to grow and once IAH has matured and increased to daily.
Cant see DEL either. Would be an ULH route at 15/16 hours. traffic from NZ to India is spread over several cities with no one city dominating. NZ is better putting this traffic via SIN.
Additionally, the much larger SYD & MEL have only recieved a non-stop flight to DEL within the last couple of years. They are 3 hrs closer to DEL than AKL and from what i understand this flight is not performing that well.
Cant see DEL either. Would be an ULH route at 15/16 hours. traffic from NZ to India is spread over several cities with no one city dominating. NZ is better putting this traffic via SIN.
Additionally, the much larger SYD & MEL have only recieved a non-stop flight to DEL within the last couple of years. They are 3 hrs closer to DEL than AKL and from what i understand this flight is not performing that well.
Nov 7, 2015, 6:56 pm
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Cant see DEL either. Would be an ULH route at 15/16 hours. traffic from NZ to India is spread over several cities with no one city dominating. NZ is better putting this traffic via SIN.
Additionally, the much larger SYD & MEL have only recieved a non-stop flight to DEL within the last couple of years. They are 3 hrs closer to DEL than AKL and from what i understand this flight is not performing that well.
Additionally, the much larger SYD & MEL have only recieved a non-stop flight to DEL within the last couple of years. They are 3 hrs closer to DEL than AKL and from what i understand this flight is not performing that well.
Nov 8, 2015, 1:08 pm
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ICN? Of course they'd want an alliance with KE if they did, given NZ's aversion to competing.
Nov 8, 2015, 3:31 pm
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Both BKK and KUL have very little O&D traffic - I'd peg it at much less than HKG which the CX/NZ authorisation request stated was about 16%. TG and MH can make it work because they can connect their passengers on to their onward services. I wouldn't put it past NZ to try to tie up with TG or MH on the route but with their SQ alliance feeding into SE Asia and Europe; and CX feeding them into North China there's not much of a role left for any TG/MH alliance to play.
ICN? Of course they'd want an alliance with KE if they did, given NZ's aversion to competing.
ICN? Of course they'd want an alliance with KE if they did, given NZ's aversion to competing.
The Japanese bilateral was the same where you previously had JL as the designated flag carrier while NH could not even though they belonged to *A. THis changed when NH became the designated flag carrier between JPN and NZL
