Premium Economy awards
Apr 22, 2014, 11:02 pm
#1
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Premium Economy awards
Hi all,
This has been talked about already, probably, but I can't find it: can I redeem Aegean and/or Miles&More miles on an Air NZ Premium Economy seat??
My *A-award-charts only shows mileage for economy and business. Is Premium Economy considered 'economy' redemption-wise??
Thanks!
This has been talked about already, probably, but I can't find it: can I redeem Aegean and/or Miles&More miles on an Air NZ Premium Economy seat??
My *A-award-charts only shows mileage for economy and business. Is Premium Economy considered 'economy' redemption-wise??
Thanks!
Apr 23, 2014, 3:18 am
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Hi all,
This has been talked about already, probably, but I can't find it: can I redeem Aegean and/or Miles&More miles on an Air NZ Premium Economy seat??
My *A-award-charts only shows mileage for economy and business. Is Premium Economy considered 'economy' redemption-wise??
Thanks!
This has been talked about already, probably, but I can't find it: can I redeem Aegean and/or Miles&More miles on an Air NZ Premium Economy seat??
My *A-award-charts only shows mileage for economy and business. Is Premium Economy considered 'economy' redemption-wise??
Thanks!
Apr 23, 2014, 9:33 pm
#4
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And what about the "Sky Couch"??
Can I upgrade my two award seats to a Sky Couch in some way, with miles or albeit with money??
Can I upgrade my two award seats to a Sky Couch in some way, with miles or albeit with money??
Apr 23, 2014, 10:06 pm
#5
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What flight are you trying to get these awards on? its NZ 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 chances of being able to get an seat at all in unlike. NZ doesn't release many *A rewards seats, due to the fact they can sell almost every seat as revue on these services. Also as there own FF program is an any seat reward system (see http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints-flight-rewards). They don't need to make an award inventory available for this, as they are taken from revenue seat buckets.
Apr 23, 2014, 10:36 pm
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Mmm.. Didn't know about that, but it does make sense.
I'm looking for awards as follows:
- 2x adults
- one-way economy (or Sky Coach..): PER-AKL-CHC on 14th November using new 787-9
- one-way business: CHC-AKL-PER on 30th November
First itinerary looks available on United's MileagePlus award-search website.
But the second date only shows economy awards available..
But I'll have to charge this across my Miles&More and Aegean miles (not United).
According to ITA Matrix it seems as if Air NZ has almost no fuel surcharges (14 AUD..)!
I'm looking for awards as follows:
- 2x adults
- one-way economy (or Sky Coach..): PER-AKL-CHC on 14th November using new 787-9
- one-way business: CHC-AKL-PER on 30th November
First itinerary looks available on United's MileagePlus award-search website.
But the second date only shows economy awards available..
But I'll have to charge this across my Miles&More and Aegean miles (not United).
According to ITA Matrix it seems as if Air NZ has almost no fuel surcharges (14 AUD..)!
Apr 23, 2014, 11:36 pm
#7
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Are you UA/Aeegen points really worth using on AKL-PER? you could be better just paying for AKL-PER in Cash.
e.g NZ currently has an deal on AKL-PER for $479 (seat only) or $509 (seat + bag).
Example:
2x Adults $957NZ
2x Adults Sky Couch Upgrade $399NZD
Total: $1360NZD
e.g NZ currently has an deal on AKL-PER for $479 (seat only) or $509 (seat + bag).
Example:
2x Adults $957NZ
2x Adults Sky Couch Upgrade $399NZD
Total: $1360NZD
Apr 24, 2014, 12:18 am
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Maybe..
But consider with Aegean and LH Miles&More award tickets are booked in 'zones' instead of distance-based awards, so Perth and Christchurch are all 'Oceania'.
So these intra-zone fares for one-way economy require only 12500 miles (Aegean), or 15000 miles (LH Miles&More).
This works out to be 3.44 CPM (AUD), or 2.86 CPM (AUD) respectively based on a AU$430 base fare according to ITA Matrix, and almost no fuel charge.
Even better value would be to go from PER to some pacific island (Fiji, Tahiti, Tonga etc) for the same amount of miles, but we'd rather go and visit NZ!
And best value would be to get a Business class award, but they don't seem to be available..
But consider with Aegean and LH Miles&More award tickets are booked in 'zones' instead of distance-based awards, so Perth and Christchurch are all 'Oceania'.
So these intra-zone fares for one-way economy require only 12500 miles (Aegean), or 15000 miles (LH Miles&More).
This works out to be 3.44 CPM (AUD), or 2.86 CPM (AUD) respectively based on a AU$430 base fare according to ITA Matrix, and almost no fuel charge.
Even better value would be to go from PER to some pacific island (Fiji, Tahiti, Tonga etc) for the same amount of miles, but we'd rather go and visit NZ!
And best value would be to get a Business class award, but they don't seem to be available..
Apr 24, 2014, 12:20 am
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Are you UA/Aeegen points really worth using on AKL-PER? you could be better just paying for AKL-PER in Cash.
e.g NZ currently has an deal on AKL-PER for $479 (seat only) or $509 (seat + bag).
Example:
2x Adults $957NZ
2x Adults Sky Couch Upgrade $399NZD
Total: $1360NZD
e.g NZ currently has an deal on AKL-PER for $479 (seat only) or $509 (seat + bag).
Example:
2x Adults $957NZ
2x Adults Sky Couch Upgrade $399NZD
Total: $1360NZD
Apr 24, 2014, 2:47 am
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What flight are you trying to get these awards on? its NZ 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 chances of being able to get an seat at all in unlike. NZ doesn't release many *A rewards seats, due to the fact they can sell almost every seat as revue on these services. Also as there own FF program is an any seat reward system (see http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints-flight-rewards). They don't need to make an award inventory available for this, as they are taken from revenue seat buckets.
The Tasman has been oddly broken for a while though - I'm really not sure what NZ is doing there.
Apr 24, 2014, 8:39 am
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its NZ 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 chances
NZ9/10
That's not quite correct. It is not hard to find X-class inventory across the Pacific; and NZ9/10 have been the only way for the last 2-ish years to find I-class inventory to the USA (763 or 772).
I would say yes as it would require the same amount of miles as SYD-AKL with the domestic flight also being a free add on. And you get the Works.
Apr 24, 2014, 9:35 am
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By the way, if Business Class award tickets arent available on the CHC-AKL-PER route, why not fly CHC-AKL-BKK-PER..??
I know this is about 12+ hrs more flying, but it's also enjoying that first-ever-business-class experience that much longer!
I'll double check in the relevant FFP forums whether this still requires same amount of miles to redeem.
I know this is about 12+ hrs more flying, but it's also enjoying that first-ever-business-class experience that much longer!
I'll double check in the relevant FFP forums whether this still requires same amount of miles to redeem.
Apr 24, 2014, 2:04 pm
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By the way, if Business Class award tickets arent available on the CHC-AKL-PER route, why not fly CHC-AKL-BKK-PER..??
I know this is about 12+ hrs more flying, but it's also enjoying that first-ever-business-class experience that much longer!
I'll double check in the relevant FFP forums whether this still requires same amount of miles to redeem.
I know this is about 12+ hrs more flying, but it's also enjoying that first-ever-business-class experience that much longer!
I'll double check in the relevant FFP forums whether this still requires same amount of miles to redeem.
Apr 24, 2014, 3:18 pm
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