OneUp Results Summary thus far

Old Jan 3, 13, 1:32 am
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OneUp Results Summary

Hello everyone,

Guess I had some free time over the holidays, so I compiled the results people have posted on the "successful/unsuccessful oneup" thread into the table below. It shows min/max/avg bid amounts for each airport pair, original booking class, and separated by bids that cleared and those that were declined.

All bid amounts were converted to APD/NZD (although at current forex rates, so that may skew some past results).

Happy New Year 2014!

Note: As of the June 6th update, both the purchased ("Fare") and upgrade cabin type ("Upg") are shown. This is to help distinguish results on routes where both 2-cabin (767) and 3-cabin (747, 77R, 77W) planes are used, such as AKL-HNL, etc.

Updated January 6th, 2014

Cabin classes:
Y - Economy
PE - Premium Economy
B - Business (767)
BP - Business Premier (747, 777)

Code:
To   Fare Upg  #    Result    Min  Max  Avg  Stdby     


From: AKL
BNE  Y    B    3    Cleared   195  250  213  250  
HKG  PE   BP   2    Cleared   585  813  699  480  
HKG  Y    PE   4    Cleared   330  462  375  220  
LAX  PE   BP   6    Cleared   515  757  620  480  
LAX  Y    PE   8    Cleared   220  471  349  220  
MEL  Y    B    6    Cleared   192  315  251  250  
NAN  Y    B    1    Cleared   312  312  312  250  
NRT  Y    B    1    Cleared   528  528  528  450  
PER  Y    PE   1    Cleared   312  312  312  180  
PVG  Y    PE   1    Cleared   280  280  280  220  
RAR  Y    B    1    Cleared   300  300  300  250  
SFO  PE   BP   1    Cleared   550  550  550  480  
SFO  Y    PE   4    Cleared   330  506  389  220  
SYD  Y    B    10   Cleared   190  325  264  250      
TBU  Y    B    1    Cleared   194  194  194  250  
YVR  Y    PE   1    Cleared   250  250  250  220  
APW  Y    B    1    Declined  130  130  130  250  
BNE  Y    B    2    Declined  165  195  180  250  
HKG  PE   BP   1    Declined  611  611  611  480  
HKG  Y    PE   5    Declined  220  550  336  220  
HNL  Y    B    2    Declined  200  300  250  430  
LAX  PE   BP   4    Declined  401  1029 688  480  
LAX  Y    PE   10   Declined  270  520  429  220  
MEL  Y    B    1    Declined  240  240  240  250  
NAN  Y    B    2    Declined  171  208  189  250  
NRT  Y    PE   1    Declined  300  300  300  220  
PER  Y    PE   1    Declined  150  150  150  180  
SFO  Y    PE   4    Declined  228  400  298  220  
SYD  Y    B    8    Declined  50   300  173  250  
YVR  PE   BP   2    Declined  450  1430 940  480  

From: APW
AKL  Y    B    2    Cleared   200  200  200  250  
AKL  Y    B    1    Declined  208  208  208  250  

From: BNE
AKL  Y    B    2    Cleared   242  247  244  250  

From: DPS
AKL  Y    B    3    Cleared   325  600  475  430  

From: HKG
LHR  PE   BP   6    Cleared   585  702  628  480  
AKL  PE   BP   1    Declined  780  780  780  480  
AKL  Y    PE   3    Declined  160  390  300  220  
LHR  Y    PE   2    Declined  286  553  419  220  

From: HNL
AKL  PE   BP   1    Declined  520  520  520  360  
AKL  Y    B    1    Declined  350  350  350  430  
AKL  Y    PE   1    Declined  253  253  253  180  

From: LAX
AKL  PE   BP   5    Cleared   490  1170 725  480  
AKL  Y    PE   6    Cleared   220  548  417  220  
LHR  PE   BP   2    Cleared   702  786  744  480  
LHR  Y    PE   2    Cleared   350  350  350  220  
AKL  PE   BP   2    Declined  627  816  721  480  
AKL  Y    PE   7    Declined  300  650  425  220  
LHR  PE   BP   3    Declined  280  1130 710  480  
LHR  Y    PE   4    Declined  230  520  400  220  

From: LHR
HKG  PE   BP   2    Cleared   604  655  629  480  
HKG  Y    PE   1    Cleared   707  707  707  220  
LAX  Y    PE   1    Cleared   300  300  300  220  
LAX  PE   BP   1    Declined  477  477  477  480  
LAX  Y    PE   1    Declined  891  891  891  220  

From: MEL
AKL  Y    B    6    Cleared   200  287  238  250  
AKL  Y    B    5    Declined  165  208  182  250  

From: NAN
AKL  Y    B    2    Declined  130  130  130  250  

From: NRT
AKL  Y    PE   1    Declined  300  300  300  220  

From: PER
AKL  PE   BP   1    Cleared   320  320  320  360  

From: PVG
AKL  PE   BP   1    Declined  900  900  900  480  

From: RAR
AKL  Y    B    1    Cleared   195  195  195  250  

From: SFO
AKL  PE   BP   3    Cleared   450  614  534  480  
AKL  Y    PE   3    Cleared   236  364  300  220  
AKL  Y    PE   6    Declined  200  727  462  220  

From: SYD
AKL  Y    B    5    Cleared   210  273  230  250  
RAR  Y    B    1    Cleared   245  245  245  450  
AKL  Y    B    4    Declined  88   225  175  250  

From: YVR
AKL  PE   BP   2    Cleared   510  750  630  480

Last edited by BbTrumpet; Jan 5, 14 at 9:49 pm Reason: Results updated January 6th 2014
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Old Jan 3, 13, 2:23 am
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Excellent work!!! This is great.
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Old Jan 3, 13, 2:26 am
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Wow! Good work! I'm sure there are many on here whom will appreciate that!
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Old Jan 3, 13, 3:45 am
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Thanks, this is really useful. Have the status-based uplifts been incorporated into the numbers?
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Old Jan 3, 13, 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by pbl22 View Post
Thanks, this is really useful. Have the status-based uplifts been incorporated into the numbers?
Thanks!

Yes, it's the "grossed-up" amount, insofar as status level or uplift was specified by the original poster.
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Old Jan 3, 13, 1:57 pm
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Good work, keep it coming!!!

It will be interesting to see if there's a trend developing over time.
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Old Jan 3, 13, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by BbTrumpet View Post
Thanks!

Yes, it's the "grossed-up" amount, insofar as status level or uplift was specified by the original poster.
Nothing for AKL-HKG in that list, but I know there are bids listed for it (I had one in there).

However, well done, it is an excellent list. Obviously those with multiple bids are very helpful.
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Old Jan 3, 13, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by libertyuk View Post
Nothing for AKL-HKG in that list, but I know there are bids listed for it (I had one in there).

However, well done, it is an excellent list. Obviously those with multiple bids are very helpful.
Yeah somehow the top few rows got lopped off when I pasted it in. I wish HTML editing was enabled for the forum...

Anyway I added them back so you should see HKG, HNL and a few other destinations at the top of the list now.
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Old Jan 3, 13, 5:18 pm
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A truly excellent summary!!!
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Old Jan 10, 13, 8:26 pm
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Chart updated today. Self-bumping since editing doesn't do it automatically.
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Old Jan 10, 13, 10:38 pm
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So (just for a laugh) can the count/route segment and the average revenue/cleared upgrade be totalised just to get an idea how much more revenue NZ squeezed out of the market smple?
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Old Jan 10, 13, 11:46 pm
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Originally Posted by highpeak1 View Post
So (just for a laugh) can the count/route segment and the average revenue/cleared upgrade be totalised just to get an idea how much more revenue NZ squeezed out of the market smple?
And then compared to how much has been lost from people upset at the change moving to using other airlines?
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Old Jan 11, 13, 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by highpeak1 View Post
So (just for a laugh) can the count/route segment and the average revenue/cleared upgrade be totalised just to get an idea how much more revenue NZ squeezed out of the market smple?
Ask and ye...

Below are all the cleared upgrades with the average winning bid compared to the old standby amount.

With a few exceptions, many of the results where the OneUp is more than the old amount are on the "premium" long-haul international sectors.

I had to laugh while doing this, not only do we have a rather small data set, it still doesn't really help anyone get an upgrade. Why does it have to be so opaque? Couldn't they just reverse auction the upgrades at T-48? I would MUCH prefer that to guessing in the dark.



Code:
Origin	Dest	Class	Count	Result	Min	Max	Avg	Standby	Delta
SYD	RAR	Y	1	Cleared	245	245	245	450	-205
DPS	AKL	Y	1	Cleared	250	250	250	430	-180
AKL	HKG	Y	3	Cleared	358	358	358	450	-92
SYD	AKL	Y	3	Cleared	160	210	193	250	-57
AKL	TBU	Y	1	Cleared	194	194	194	250	-56
RAR	AKL	Y	1	Cleared	195	195	195	250	-55
APW	AKL	Y	2	Cleared	200	200	200	250	-50
PER	AKL	PE	1	Cleared	320	320	320	360	-40
SFO	AKL	PE	1	Cleared	450	450	450	480	-30
AKL	SYD	Y	5	Cleared	190	295	238	250	-12
AKL	MEL	Y	2	Cleared	286	286	286	250	36
AKL	LAX	PE	2	Cleared	515	550	533	480	53
SFO	AKL	Y	2	Cleared	300	300	300	220	80
AKL	SFO	Y	4	Cleared	330	350	340	220	120
AKL	LAX	Y	8	Cleared	312	385	349	220	129
LAX	LHR	Y	4	Cleared	350	350	350	220	130
LHR	HKG	PE	2	Cleared	604	655	630	480	150
HKG	LHR	PE	5	Cleared	585	702	632	480	152
LAX	AKL	Y	6	Cleared	360	548	437	220	217
AKL	HKG	PE	2	Cleared	585	813	699	480	219
LHR	HKG	Y	2	Cleared	707	707	707	220	487
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Old Jan 12, 13, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by BbTrumpet View Post
... Why does it have to be so opaque? Couldn't they just reverse auction the upgrades at T-48? I would MUCH prefer that to guessing in the dark.
...
Almost certainly because the bean counters have deemed the way it is being done currently is more likely to increase revenue than other methods they would have considered.
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Old Feb 7, 13, 5:33 am
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Updated Feb. 8, 2013

Removing this post to avoid confusion. The most updated results will always be in the first post in the thread.

Last edited by BbTrumpet; Mar 2, 13 at 5:35 am Reason: Added caption. Added standby APD amount for comparison.
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