OneUp Results Summary thus far
Jan 3, 2013, 12:32 am
#1
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OneUp Results Summary
Hello everyone,
Guess I had some free time over the holidays, so I compiled the results people have posted on the "successful/unsuccessful oneup" thread into the table below. It shows min/max/avg bid amounts for each airport pair, original booking class, and separated by bids that cleared and those that were declined.
All bid amounts were converted to APD/NZD (although at current forex rates, so that may skew some past results).
Happy New Year 2014!
Note: As of the June 6th update, both the purchased ("Fare") and upgrade cabin type ("Upg") are shown. This is to help distinguish results on routes where both 2-cabin (767) and 3-cabin (747, 77R, 77W) planes are used, such as AKL-HNL, etc.
Updated January 6th, 2014
Cabin classes:
Y - Economy
PE - Premium Economy
B - Business (767)
BP - Business Premier (747, 777)
Guess I had some free time over the holidays, so I compiled the results people have posted on the "successful/unsuccessful oneup" thread into the table below. It shows min/max/avg bid amounts for each airport pair, original booking class, and separated by bids that cleared and those that were declined.
All bid amounts were converted to APD/NZD (although at current forex rates, so that may skew some past results).
Happy New Year 2014!
Note: As of the June 6th update, both the purchased ("Fare") and upgrade cabin type ("Upg") are shown. This is to help distinguish results on routes where both 2-cabin (767) and 3-cabin (747, 77R, 77W) planes are used, such as AKL-HNL, etc.
Updated January 6th, 2014
Cabin classes:
Y - Economy
PE - Premium Economy
B - Business (767)
BP - Business Premier (747, 777)
Code:
To Fare Upg # Result Min Max Avg Stdby From: AKL BNE Y B 3 Cleared 195 250 213 250 HKG PE BP 2 Cleared 585 813 699 480 HKG Y PE 4 Cleared 330 462 375 220 LAX PE BP 6 Cleared 515 757 620 480 LAX Y PE 8 Cleared 220 471 349 220 MEL Y B 6 Cleared 192 315 251 250 NAN Y B 1 Cleared 312 312 312 250 NRT Y B 1 Cleared 528 528 528 450 PER Y PE 1 Cleared 312 312 312 180 PVG Y PE 1 Cleared 280 280 280 220 RAR Y B 1 Cleared 300 300 300 250 SFO PE BP 1 Cleared 550 550 550 480 SFO Y PE 4 Cleared 330 506 389 220 SYD Y B 10 Cleared 190 325 264 250 TBU Y B 1 Cleared 194 194 194 250 YVR Y PE 1 Cleared 250 250 250 220 APW Y B 1 Declined 130 130 130 250 BNE Y B 2 Declined 165 195 180 250 HKG PE BP 1 Declined 611 611 611 480 HKG Y PE 5 Declined 220 550 336 220 HNL Y B 2 Declined 200 300 250 430 LAX PE BP 4 Declined 401 1029 688 480 LAX Y PE 10 Declined 270 520 429 220 MEL Y B 1 Declined 240 240 240 250 NAN Y B 2 Declined 171 208 189 250 NRT Y PE 1 Declined 300 300 300 220 PER Y PE 1 Declined 150 150 150 180 SFO Y PE 4 Declined 228 400 298 220 SYD Y B 8 Declined 50 300 173 250 YVR PE BP 2 Declined 450 1430 940 480 From: APW AKL Y B 2 Cleared 200 200 200 250 AKL Y B 1 Declined 208 208 208 250 From: BNE AKL Y B 2 Cleared 242 247 244 250 From: DPS AKL Y B 3 Cleared 325 600 475 430 From: HKG LHR PE BP 6 Cleared 585 702 628 480 AKL PE BP 1 Declined 780 780 780 480 AKL Y PE 3 Declined 160 390 300 220 LHR Y PE 2 Declined 286 553 419 220 From: HNL AKL PE BP 1 Declined 520 520 520 360 AKL Y B 1 Declined 350 350 350 430 AKL Y PE 1 Declined 253 253 253 180 From: LAX AKL PE BP 5 Cleared 490 1170 725 480 AKL Y PE 6 Cleared 220 548 417 220 LHR PE BP 2 Cleared 702 786 744 480 LHR Y PE 2 Cleared 350 350 350 220 AKL PE BP 2 Declined 627 816 721 480 AKL Y PE 7 Declined 300 650 425 220 LHR PE BP 3 Declined 280 1130 710 480 LHR Y PE 4 Declined 230 520 400 220 From: LHR HKG PE BP 2 Cleared 604 655 629 480 HKG Y PE 1 Cleared 707 707 707 220 LAX Y PE 1 Cleared 300 300 300 220 LAX PE BP 1 Declined 477 477 477 480 LAX Y PE 1 Declined 891 891 891 220 From: MEL AKL Y B 6 Cleared 200 287 238 250 AKL Y B 5 Declined 165 208 182 250 From: NAN AKL Y B 2 Declined 130 130 130 250 From: NRT AKL Y PE 1 Declined 300 300 300 220 From: PER AKL PE BP 1 Cleared 320 320 320 360 From: PVG AKL PE BP 1 Declined 900 900 900 480 From: RAR AKL Y B 1 Cleared 195 195 195 250 From: SFO AKL PE BP 3 Cleared 450 614 534 480 AKL Y PE 3 Cleared 236 364 300 220 AKL Y PE 6 Declined 200 727 462 220 From: SYD AKL Y B 5 Cleared 210 273 230 250 RAR Y B 1 Cleared 245 245 245 450 AKL Y B 4 Declined 88 225 175 250 From: YVR AKL PE BP 2 Cleared 510 750 630 480
Last edited by BbTrumpet; Jan 5, 2014 at 8:49 pm Reason: Results updated January 6th 2014
Jan 3, 2013, 3:08 am
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Jan 3, 2013, 1:06 pm
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However, well done, it is an excellent list. Obviously those with multiple bids are very helpful.
Jan 3, 2013, 2:11 pm
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Anyway I added them back so you should see HKG, HNL and a few other destinations at the top of the list now.
Jan 10, 2013, 9:38 pm
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So (just for a laugh) can the count/route segment and the average revenue/cleared upgrade be totalised just to get an idea how much more revenue NZ squeezed out of the market smple?
Jan 10, 2013, 10:46 pm
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And then compared to how much has been lost from people upset at the change moving to using other airlines?
Jan 11, 2013, 4:31 am
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Below are all the cleared upgrades with the average winning bid compared to the old standby amount.
With a few exceptions, many of the results where the OneUp is more than the old amount are on the "premium" long-haul international sectors.
I had to laugh while doing this, not only do we have a rather small data set, it still doesn't really help anyone get an upgrade. Why does it have to be so opaque? Couldn't they just reverse auction the upgrades at T-48? I would MUCH prefer that to guessing in the dark.
Code:
Origin Dest Class Count Result Min Max Avg Standby Delta SYD RAR Y 1 Cleared 245 245 245 450 -205 DPS AKL Y 1 Cleared 250 250 250 430 -180 AKL HKG Y 3 Cleared 358 358 358 450 -92 SYD AKL Y 3 Cleared 160 210 193 250 -57 AKL TBU Y 1 Cleared 194 194 194 250 -56 RAR AKL Y 1 Cleared 195 195 195 250 -55 APW AKL Y 2 Cleared 200 200 200 250 -50 PER AKL PE 1 Cleared 320 320 320 360 -40 SFO AKL PE 1 Cleared 450 450 450 480 -30 AKL SYD Y 5 Cleared 190 295 238 250 -12 AKL MEL Y 2 Cleared 286 286 286 250 36 AKL LAX PE 2 Cleared 515 550 533 480 53 SFO AKL Y 2 Cleared 300 300 300 220 80 AKL SFO Y 4 Cleared 330 350 340 220 120 AKL LAX Y 8 Cleared 312 385 349 220 129 LAX LHR Y 4 Cleared 350 350 350 220 130 LHR HKG PE 2 Cleared 604 655 630 480 150 HKG LHR PE 5 Cleared 585 702 632 480 152 LAX AKL Y 6 Cleared 360 548 437 220 217 AKL HKG PE 2 Cleared 585 813 699 480 219 LHR HKG Y 2 Cleared 707 707 707 220 487
Jan 12, 2013, 3:28 pm
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Almost certainly because the bean counters have deemed the way it is being done currently is more likely to increase revenue than other methods they would have considered.
Feb 7, 2013, 4:33 am
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Updated Feb. 8, 2013
Removing this post to avoid confusion. The most updated results will always be in the first post in the thread.
Last edited by BbTrumpet; Mar 2, 2013 at 4:35 am Reason: Added caption. Added standby APD amount for comparison.