Airpoints Upgrades Gone!
Feb 29, 2012, 7:04 pm
#31
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Invercargill, New Zealand
Programs: BA Silver, NZ Jade, QF Bronze, A Club Platinum, Hhonors Silver
Posts: 374
You have the option of paying on a credit card OR with Airpoints
Feb 29, 2012, 7:09 pm
#32
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Auckland, Aotearoa
Programs: NZ E, EY G, QF G
Posts: 153
"Note that we will review all requests for Airpoints Standby and/or Confirmed Upgrades that we receive before 30 May 2012 according to the Airpoints terms and conditions that are in effect on the day we receive the request, even if the request relates to travel after 30 May 2012."
Feb 29, 2012, 7:17 pm
#33
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Wellington
Programs: Airpoints, Qantas, KrisFlyer, Mileage Plus
Posts: 88
I agree... except NZ doesn't really know how to behave like a LCC. They only know the fee structure.
Look at their entry fares to DPS... a good LCC would have used the sales launch as a marketing promotion, with a few $300 fares thrown in to entice. Instead NZ prices themselves out of the market in an effort to work down the demand curve rather than influence it (JQ Biz cheaper than NZ Works deluxe!).
So I fail to see any reason to go out of my way to fly NZ except compulsion where they have monopolies.
Sayonara NZ... I'm switching to UA or US.
Look at their entry fares to DPS... a good LCC would have used the sales launch as a marketing promotion, with a few $300 fares thrown in to entice. Instead NZ prices themselves out of the market in an effort to work down the demand curve rather than influence it (JQ Biz cheaper than NZ Works deluxe!).
So I fail to see any reason to go out of my way to fly NZ except compulsion where they have monopolies.
Sayonara NZ... I'm switching to UA or US.
Got into MyAirNZ and requested upgrades. Applied 1 of my *GE recognition u/g and one of my wife's *G and 430 standby for daughter going over. Used my wife's other one for coming back. Checked again and both of my recognitions gone [one should still have lurked] then a nice email about bidding war came through. I'm going to gird my loins and ring premium team for a fireside chat.
Feb 29, 2012, 7:37 pm
#35
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Auckland NZ
Programs: NZ Air Points (Gold Elite), Velocity (Platinum), Emirates (Gold)
Posts: 607
I just got the email to me as a Gold Elite, and my reaction was "Holy sh*t! They've killed Airpoints!"
I am so happy that I dumped AirNZ for Virgin. I have 5 international trips booked for this year so far, and they are all booked through Virgin.
I did note that the status upgrades will still be handled separately. However, I doubt these will last for too many years.
I am so happy that I dumped AirNZ for Virgin. I have 5 international trips booked for this year so far, and they are all booked through Virgin.
I did note that the status upgrades will still be handled separately. However, I doubt these will last for too many years.
Feb 29, 2012, 7:45 pm
#36
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NZ
Posts: 731
This could be the end of G and GE, why pay for business class full fare when you pay for economy and put in for upgrade? You will only get economy SP's but business service for a "few dollars more".
I can see NZ execs syaing this is good we make money on 1/2 full flights by getting a few bucks for business, but now lets reduce the service in business so we can make even more money. Congrats Mr Fyfe you will leave a great legacy behind you and finally the Kiwi that could fly may be looking at losing its wings
I can see NZ execs syaing this is good we make money on 1/2 full flights by getting a few bucks for business, but now lets reduce the service in business so we can make even more money. Congrats Mr Fyfe you will leave a great legacy behind you and finally the Kiwi that could fly may be looking at losing its wings
Feb 29, 2012, 8:09 pm
#39
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: QF Gold
Posts: 1,242
The only positive resolution from here I would think is if GEs could only be outbid by other GEs, Gs could only be outbidded by other Gs and GEs, silvers could only be outbid by other silvers, Gs and GEs.
i.e. 5 available PE seats
Jade bidder #1 bids $500
GE bidder #1 bids $1
GE bidder #2 bids $200
G bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #2 bids $200
Jade bidder #2 bids $1000
Jade bidder #3 bids $400
G bidder #2 bids $600
Winner of seats:
Seat 1: GE bidder #2, $200
Seat 2: GE bidder #1, $1
Seat 3: G bidder #2, $600
Seat 4: G bidder #1, $300
Seat 5: Silver bidder #1, $300
GE would still be big losers here, but I think it would be ok for everyone else.
i.e. 5 available PE seats
Jade bidder #1 bids $500
GE bidder #1 bids $1
GE bidder #2 bids $200
G bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #2 bids $200
Jade bidder #2 bids $1000
Jade bidder #3 bids $400
G bidder #2 bids $600
Winner of seats:
Seat 1: GE bidder #2, $200
Seat 2: GE bidder #1, $1
Seat 3: G bidder #2, $600
Seat 4: G bidder #1, $300
Seat 5: Silver bidder #1, $300
GE would still be big losers here, but I think it would be ok for everyone else.
Last edited by Shazzadude; Feb 29, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Feb 29, 2012, 8:10 pm
#40
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: TRG, SBA
Programs: NZ*GE, A3*G, UA Prem, QF, AA
Posts: 157
What about DJ Velocity?
I think you only need 50 NZ domestic sectors to reach gold, not the 80-odd you heroically endured.
Edit: This is only if you pay top $... NZ still monopolise FF credit for discounted fares.
But your point is exactly what's going through the execs minds... "hey, we're a monopoly, we don't need a loyalty programme, so let's turn it into an alternative cash flow!"
I think you only need 50 NZ domestic sectors to reach gold, not the 80-odd you heroically endured.
Edit: This is only if you pay top $... NZ still monopolise FF credit for discounted fares.
But your point is exactly what's going through the execs minds... "hey, we're a monopoly, we don't need a loyalty programme, so let's turn it into an alternative cash flow!"
Last edited by kaimanawa; Feb 29, 2012 at 8:17 pm Reason: Correcting earlier thought
Feb 29, 2012, 8:18 pm
#42
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: AKL
Programs: NZ Silver
Posts: 1,816
Feb 29, 2012, 8:21 pm
#43
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: NZ*G ELT, VA-G
Posts: 3,595
Feb 29, 2012, 8:30 pm
#44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: TRG, SBA
Programs: NZ*GE, A3*G, UA Prem, QF, AA
Posts: 157
Feb 29, 2012, 8:40 pm
#45
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: NZ*E
Posts: 808
The only positive resolution from here I would think is if GEs could only be outbid by other GEs, Gs could only be outbidded by other Gs and GEs, silvers could only be outbid by other silvers, Gs and GEs.
i.e. 5 available PE seats
Jade bidder #1 bids $500
GE bidder #1 bids $1
GE bidder #2 bids $200
G bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #2 bids $200
Jade bidder #2 bids $1000
Jade bidder #3 bids $400
G bidder #2 bids $600
Winner of seats:
Seat 1: GE bidder #2, $200
Seat 2: GE bidder #1, $1
Seat 3: G bidder #2, $600
Seat 4: G bidder #1, $300
Seat 5: Silver bidder #1, $300
GE would still be big losers here, but I think it would be ok for everyone else.
i.e. 5 available PE seats
Jade bidder #1 bids $500
GE bidder #1 bids $1
GE bidder #2 bids $200
G bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #1 bids $300
Silver bidder #2 bids $200
Jade bidder #2 bids $1000
Jade bidder #3 bids $400
G bidder #2 bids $600
Winner of seats:
Seat 1: GE bidder #2, $200
Seat 2: GE bidder #1, $1
Seat 3: G bidder #2, $600
Seat 4: G bidder #1, $300
Seat 5: Silver bidder #1, $300
GE would still be big losers here, but I think it would be ok for everyone else.
"Your Gold Elite status will be taken into account when your OneUp Upgrade offer is reviewed."
so does it mean that I would still take priority if I only bid $1? whereas a Silver or Jade member might be bidding a few hundreds?