LAX - LHR First Class Question

Old Aug 8, 11, 10:07 am
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LAX - LHR First Class Question

Need one round trip First Class (lie flat) ticket from LAX to LHR departing September 1st return 10 days later.

Does ANZ fly this route direct?

Do seats lie flat?

Can we exchange Amex points for ANZ miles 1/1?

Thanks very much in advance!
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Old Aug 8, 11, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by mtmark View Post
Need one round trip First Class (lie flat) ticket from LAX to LHR departing September 1st return 10 days later.

Does ANZ fly this route direct?
Yes, daily. However they don't have a First Class product, but their Business Premier product is very similar to First Class in hard and soft product.

Originally Posted by mtmark View Post
Do seats lie flat?
Yes. See http://www.airnewzealand.com/new-business-premier for more information.

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Can we exchange Amex points for ANZ miles 1/1?
AirNZ does not have a "miles" currency, they have an Airpoints Dollar structure. Amex transfers depend on your market - in Australia you can transfer from Amex MR to APD, and in NZ there are direct earn Amex cards. I don't think you can transfer Amex MR->APD in any other market.

You could transfer into another Star partner and redeem miles on NZ services, if you can find award availability.
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Old Aug 8, 11, 11:51 am
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Thanks mate, any idea why on their site you cannot plan a return trip starting LAX - LHR but you can starting LHR - LAX?
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Old Aug 8, 11, 1:17 pm
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Have a go on the US version of the NZ site.
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Old Aug 9, 11, 5:54 am
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US site solved that, thanks
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Old Aug 9, 11, 6:39 pm
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I hope you're not thinking that you will find award Business Premier seats for flights 22 and 32 days out, when you have no status with the airline.

Because that would only open up I inventory, of which there won't be any.
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Old Aug 9, 11, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by mtmark View Post
US site solved that, thanks
You might also want to investigate whether you can exchange MR points for miles on a US/UA/CO programme as the taxes / miles used might be less than NZ's.
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Old Aug 9, 11, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by DCF View Post
I hope you're not thinking that you will find award Business Premier seats for flights 22 and 32 days out, when you have no status with the airline.

Because that would only open up I inventory, of which there won't be any.
It's not that hard. I found SFO-AKL I inventory eight days out recently. Another award ticket for October wasn't exactly hard to find either.

(Admittedly, I've not looked at LAX-LHR, rather AKL-LAX/SFO r/t)
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At the last minute is often the best time to find biz award space availability on NZ, I find, especially if you have a few days flexibility on dates.

LAX-LHR is pretty tough though.
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Old Aug 11, 11, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by mad_atta View Post
At the last minute is often the best time to find biz award space availability on NZ, I find, especially if you have a few days flexibility on dates.

LAX-LHR is pretty tough though.
I found LAX-LHR Business Premier award inventory available for me to book with UA miles about 21 days out.
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Old Aug 11, 11, 5:40 pm
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I found LAX-LHR Business Premier award inventory available for me to book with UA miles about 21 days out.
For comp. Upgrade R class likes to raise its head 3 days out from departure. Even if it has been 0 out for a while.
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how does NZ soft/hard product compare with UA on this route?
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Old Aug 11, 11, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by haddon90 View Post
how does NZ soft/hard product compare with UA on this route?
That is the funniest question I have ever read on FT! The best analogy I can think of is:

UA = Greyhound.

NZ = QE2 (First Class).

Seriously, NZ is streaks ahead of UA in pretty much every way possible (bar it's FF program):

- Decent lounges ( the LAX one is top notch.
- Staff are consistently excellent (they never ever yell at you)
- High standard of F&B.
- Clean planes
- Fairly good IFE.
- Ground staff tend to be fairly good, though not consistently good.

Mmmh have I missed anything?
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Old Aug 11, 11, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by MrSydney View Post

Mmmh have I missed anything?
LHR-LAX-LHR is operated by brand new 777-300ER delivered this year.
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Old Aug 11, 11, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by MrSydney View Post
That is the funniest question I have ever read on FT! The best analogy I can think of is:

UA = Greyhound.

NZ = QE2 (First Class).

Seriously, NZ is streaks ahead of UA in pretty much every way possible (bar it's FF program):

- Decent lounges ( the LAX one is top notch.
- Staff are consistently excellent (they never ever yell at you)
- High standard of F&B.
- Clean planes
- Fairly good IFE.
- Ground staff tend to be fairly good, though not consistently good.

Mmmh have I missed anything?
Except that in Economy, I'd probably go for UA over NZ simply for getting more space. The food and IFE are definitely better on NZ in coach, but you're 10 abreast and the legroom looks really tight. For a redeye, I can ignore food and IFE if I can just have enough room to sleep. (and yes, I know this thread is about business/first)
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