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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
(Post 16318544)
I agree with the 10 across seating issue. I don't need to fly the airline to know it's going to be bad. And as others have said, no amount of IFE, service, food or anything else will make up for the narrow seating.
What IS bad is that they also reduced seat pitch significantly, and introduced a poorly designed new economy seat which has a much thicker seat back - reducing leg room even further. Given the choice, I'd much rather they take out a row or two to improve the seat pitch rather than go back to 3-3-3. |
Originally Posted by Reason077
(Post 16320937)
Having flown on the -300, I think the 10-across thing is overblown. 10-across in itself isn't that bad.
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Originally Posted by Reason077
(Post 16320937)
Having flown on the -300, I think the 10-across thing is overblown. 10-across in itself isn't that bad.
What IS bad is that they also reduced seat pitch significantly, and introduced a poorly designed new economy seat which has a much thicker seat back - reducing leg room even further. Given the choice, I'd much rather they take out a row or two to improve the seat pitch rather than go back to 3-3-3. The NZ 777-300 has 1-2" more seat pitch than the current 777-200 but 1-2" less than the 747, which must look like business class to those on the new bird:rolleyes: I am not a wide guy, in fact think I am average across the shoulders for a male, and I hate flying in a 737 or A320 economy seat even across the Tasman. |
Originally Posted by birder
(Post 16322465)
17.1 inch seat width isn't that bad? On a 24 hour flight from Auckland to London?
What was very noticeable, however, was the reduced legroom. That and the generally degraded service in economy compared to the 747/772.
Originally Posted by Blackcloud
The NZ 777-300 has 1-2" more seat pitch than the current 777-200 but 1-2" less than the 747, which must look like business class to those on the new bird
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Given the move to increasingly slimline seats for the past decade or more, what on earth was NZ thinking to move to a *less* slimline design (especially in combination with reducing seat pitch by 1" relative to the 744). It just makes absolutely no sense.
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How much recline is there in the SpaceSeat? I've seen comments here saying 'not much' but does anyone have a measurement?
The whole sliding-forward thing never suited me (maybe because I'm 6"2') - it's the reason I find CX's Y seat uncomfortable (it has no recline and is all slide). It would be a real shame if NZ's new PE had almost no recline too. |
Originally Posted by pacpro
(Post 16359495)
Correct one aircraft has been changed or changing now. The seats are drawing a lot of complaints mainly from people who are in A K and can't get out
--- The reconfiguration of this cabin to 44 Spaceseats will take place over several days in late August and as a result a Boeing 777-200 will operate five return NZ1/2 services during this time as follows: Tuesday 16th, Friday 19th and Monday 22nd August AKL-LHR and corresponding return LHR-AKL services on Wednesday 17th, Saturday 20th and Tuesday 23rd August Monday 29th and Wednesday 31st August AKL-LHR and corresponding return LHR-AKL services on Tuesday 30th August and Thursday 1st September --- |
I'm on the 773 on the 8th AKL-LAX-LHR and on the 18th LHR-LAX-AKL! Hopefully it stays a 773!
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Originally Posted by Rebound
(Post 16370984)
Hopefully it stays a 773!
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Originally Posted by NZ*Trout
(Post 16371041)
You must be flying in BP.
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Originally Posted by Adelaide_Matthew
(Post 16370094)
How much recline is there in the SpaceSeat? I've seen comments here saying 'not much' but does anyone have a measurement?
The whole sliding-forward thing never suited me (maybe because I'm 6"2') - it's the reason I find CX's Y seat uncomfortable (it has no recline and is all slide). It would be a real shame if NZ's new PE had almost no recline too. |
I know some of this is posted above, but thought the full blurb could be of interest.
Originally Posted by Air New Zealand
BOEING 777-300 PREMIUM ECONOMY SEATING RECONFIGURATION
Air New Zealand’s innovative new Boeing 777-300 interiors have been receiving excellent feedback and as well as receiving a prestigious Crystal Cabin Award last month, yesterday took out Conde Nast Traveller’s 2011 Innovation and Design Awards for the Economy Skycouch™, selected ahead of both Singapore Airlines’ and Lufthansa’s respective First Class A380 cabins. Innovation requires constant improvement and there have been a couple of areas customers have said we can improve further, specifically speed of the food and beverage service, which we’ve already addressed, and the amount of leg room for tall people in some of the Premium Economy Spaceseats. Therefore, Air New Zealand will be removing one row of Premium Economy seating from the aircraft to provide passengers in this cabin with up to six inches (15cm) of additional legroom. The Premium Economy product on this aircraft is already superior to that offered by any other carrier and this change will further enhance this fact. The reconfiguration of this cabin to 44 Spaceseats will take place over several days in late August and as a result a Boeing 777-200 will operate five return NZ1/2 services during this time as follows: Tuesday 16th, Friday 19th and Monday 22nd August AKL-LHR and corresponding return LHR-AKL services on Wednesday 17th, Saturday 20th and Tuesday 23rd August Monday 29th and Wednesday 31st August AKL-LHR and corresponding return LHR-AKL services on Tuesday 30th August and Thursday 1st September The B777-200 is not fitted with Air New Zealand’s Economy Skycouch™.. Customers booked and ticketed to travel in an Economy Skycouch™ on any of the affected flights will receive a full refund for the Economy Skycouch™ product upgrade portion of their ticket should they choose to continue to travel on the same flight.. Customers that prefer to change travel dates so that they can continue to fly in an Economy Skycouch™ can change for no additional charge to another flight operated by the B777-300, either the day before or day after the original travel date. Air New Zealand Agency Support will contact travel agents that have customers booked to travel in Economy Skycouch™ on the affected flights to assist with re-accommodation. Wonder if they will increase the recline, not sure if it is possible without a decent level of seat modification. |
... The Premium Economy product on this aircraft is already superior to that offered by any other carrier and this change will further enhance this fact. ... |
Originally Posted by Aerosett
(Post 16372467)
I've found the recline is ok, I think it's meant to be comparable to the old PE. Definitely more than Economy.
Where it must be better than the CX Y seat is that the CX seat slumps forward with no improvement to the lumbar support: the NZ seat back looks like it is of sterner stuff so when the seat base slides forward, the back also comes forward. It will be interesting to hear if the extra leg room that is promised to be coming is enough to make people more comfortable. I'd like it to be, as this design seemed attractive. |
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