Space+ Gone on 767-300 on Trans-Tasman - miserable!
Oct 20, 2010, 1:24 am
#31
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CHC
Programs: NZ Silver+Exec Club Blue+Priority Club
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I, too, am an expat living in NZ and have felt the same way, although these days I'm more open to trying other carriers just because I feel that banking with only one to gain elite status is a shrinking reward system.
Perhaps CO's flights on the 787 IAH-AKL may be an option for you!
Perhaps CO's flights on the 787 IAH-AKL may be an option for you!
Ive been looking into it already. Will do the first few on QF/AA as Im already with BAs Executive Club. Once November hits I will really look forward to flying directly into Houston on CO. I really hope that service goes ahead and does well. Now they are in the Star Alliance, Im really doubting I will get the points accredited to my NZ membership.
Once again I'll say it is sad, because I would prefer to spend my money with Air NZ. But nothing will change my opinion on them now. I'll report back once theyve replied.
Oct 20, 2010, 6:01 am
#32
Join Date: May 2006
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Air NZ is trying to compete with Jetstar & Pacific Blue, which is the reason for the change.
I am sure they have done the maths on it, and while the majority on here complain and whinge, there is the other 99.5% of people who just want the cheapest price.
Time will tell if these changes are a success! My guess is that they are here to stay!
Emirates is always another option, but not for all of us!
I am sure they have done the maths on it, and while the majority on here complain and whinge, there is the other 99.5% of people who just want the cheapest price.
Time will tell if these changes are a success! My guess is that they are here to stay!
Emirates is always another option, but not for all of us!
Oct 20, 2010, 7:11 am
#33
Join Date: May 2010
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As a *G you might be better off on the A320 if you can get 1ABC or 2DEF. Of course it's a lottery since Air NZ won't let you see the seat map for the flight before you book...
Oct 20, 2010, 11:13 am
#34
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...but you could take a subscription to ExpertFlyer to see NZ seat maps in advance. Just a thought.
Oct 20, 2010, 1:03 pm
#35
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Auckland
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Air NZ is trying to compete with Jetstar & Pacific Blue, which is the reason for the change.
I am sure they have done the maths on it, and while the majority on here complain and whinge, there is the other 99.5% of people who just want the cheapest price.
Time will tell if these changes are a success! My guess is that they are here to stay!
Emirates is always another option, but not for all of us!
I am sure they have done the maths on it, and while the majority on here complain and whinge, there is the other 99.5% of people who just want the cheapest price.
Time will tell if these changes are a success! My guess is that they are here to stay!
Emirates is always another option, but not for all of us!
Oct 20, 2010, 3:45 pm
#36
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gozo, Malta
Programs: BAEC, QF.
Posts: 362
I'm planning a flight from LHR to CNS next year, and after seeing the new NZ cabins I was excited to fly NZ for the first time. Not the most direct route to CNS, sure, but I've got the time, and Business Premier looks great. Then I discovered that there was no business class from AKL to CNS, and flying in Business Premier wouldn't even get me into a Space + seat (if they exist); I'd need to stump up for Koru Club membership to stand a chance of getting a "New" Space + seat. Suddenly Air New Zealand seemed less exciting.
Shame.
Shame.
Oct 20, 2010, 3:53 pm
#37
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I'm planning a flight from LHR to CNS next year, and after seeing the new NZ cabins I was excited to fly NZ for the first time. Not the most direct route to CNS, sure, but I've got the time, and Business Premier looks great. Then I discovered that there was no business class from AKL to CNS, and flying in Business Premier wouldn't even get me into a Space + seat (if they exist); I'd need to stump up for Koru Club membership to stand a chance of getting a "New" Space + seat. Suddenly Air New Zealand seemed less exciting.
Shame.
Shame.
There went an $8000 fare.
Oct 20, 2010, 3:53 pm
#38
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Auckland New Zealand
Programs: Air New Zealand airpoints since 1992, currently *Silver, Koru Club
Posts: 581
I'm planning a flight from LHR to CNS next year, and after seeing the new NZ cabins I was excited to fly NZ for the first time. Not the most direct route to CNS, sure, but I've got the time, and Business Premier looks great. Then I discovered that there was no business class from AKL to CNS, and flying in Business Premier wouldn't even get me into a Space + seat (if they exist); I'd need to stump up for Koru Club membership to stand a chance of getting a "New" Space + seat. Suddenly Air New Zealand seemed less exciting.
Shame.
Shame.
Oct 25, 2010, 10:40 pm
#39
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CHC
Programs: NZ Silver+Exec Club Blue+Priority Club
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Im sorry to continue on the negative bent but as Ive said prior I am completely disillusioned with NZ.
A work colleague of mine emailed me a little earlier he flew this morning on one of the new reconfigured A320s CHC-BNE.
Apparently the decor is a stark black/white contrast. He said as soon as he boarded is breath was taken back, and not in a good way. I dont know how long these newbies have been flying but the seats uphosltery is already looked tired (???) The jet black carpet and seats shows up dirt, hair and fluff really well apparently.
Told me after this trip he will request work book him on another carrier for his TT flights, honestly though I think JQ is just as bad. Thankfully for me I only ever fly to SYD, the old NZ product with the jade Y seats was good enough, I refuse to touch JQ, have done QF but could not believe they do not have IFE. My last trip to SYD on QF was a 737 anyway, not the 767 Ive had prior. On my friends recommendation Im going on EK from now on. Although the scheduling is not quite right I will fly the day prior and spend that night working and at least be fresh in the morning.
A saving grace he said the loading was very poor on this mornings flight, possible not even half full which made it easier for him to move around at least. Also noted the staff were fantastic, the food terrible and the IFE good.
A work colleague of mine emailed me a little earlier he flew this morning on one of the new reconfigured A320s CHC-BNE.
Apparently the decor is a stark black/white contrast. He said as soon as he boarded is breath was taken back, and not in a good way. I dont know how long these newbies have been flying but the seats uphosltery is already looked tired (???) The jet black carpet and seats shows up dirt, hair and fluff really well apparently.
Told me after this trip he will request work book him on another carrier for his TT flights, honestly though I think JQ is just as bad. Thankfully for me I only ever fly to SYD, the old NZ product with the jade Y seats was good enough, I refuse to touch JQ, have done QF but could not believe they do not have IFE. My last trip to SYD on QF was a 737 anyway, not the 767 Ive had prior. On my friends recommendation Im going on EK from now on. Although the scheduling is not quite right I will fly the day prior and spend that night working and at least be fresh in the morning.
A saving grace he said the loading was very poor on this mornings flight, possible not even half full which made it easier for him to move around at least. Also noted the staff were fantastic, the food terrible and the IFE good.
Oct 26, 2010, 1:27 am
#40
Join Date: Oct 2010
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admittedly i can only speak for auckland, i'm not completely aware of what equipment they use out of christchurch.
Oct 27, 2010, 1:52 am
#42
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
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others can correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe that the only qantas planes on the tasman now without ife are the 737-400s. the 737-800s and a330s are all avod.
admittedly i can only speak for auckland, i'm not completely aware of what equipment they use out of christchurch.
admittedly i can only speak for auckland, i'm not completely aware of what equipment they use out of christchurch.
Oct 27, 2010, 3:35 am
#43
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Oct 27, 2010, 5:21 am
#44
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I didnt realize their were any ZK's left. At least my last SYD-CHC rtn was 737 and no pife on either leg.
I think they only use 737s on that sector now. As mentioned previously I had done this flight on 767s, although none of those aircraft had the pife either.
Oct 27, 2010, 7:44 am
#45
Join Date: May 2010
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There are three New Zealand registered Jetconnect 73H's.