Calchas

Does the ticket number matter?

I used to buy all of my AF/KL travel on 006 stock through DL to avoid the European credit card fees ... hope that isn’t the reason I almost never got upgraded.

Macaron54

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Originally Posted by Calchas

Does the ticket number matter?

I used to buy all of my AF/KL travel on 006 stock through DL to avoid the European credit card fees ... hope that isn’t the reason I almost never got upgraded.

It certainly does. Why would AFKL do any favor to someone who flies code-share and is not FB? Symmetrically, on DL flights, SkyMiles members always have precedence over FB members when it comes to upgrades. For crying out loud, a Silver medallion will be selected before an FB Ultimate . DL calls it a reciprocity measure.

Calchas

Not talking about codeshares. That’s unrelated to the ticket number. And the frequent flyer number is also unrelated.

You can buy a KL-operated AF-numbered flight on DL stock and put in your MU frequent flyer number if you like.

Macaron54

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Originally Posted by Calchas

Not talking about codeshares. That’s unrelated to the ticket number. And the frequent flyer number is also unrelated.

You can buy a KL-operated AF-numbered flight on DL stock and put in your MU frequent flyer number if you like.

You are absolutely correct, but that is extraneous to the point. As a matter of principle, AFKL will not opup on its flights a SkyMiles member with a ticket from DL stock. Likewise, DL will not opup on its flights an FB member with a ticket from AFKL stock (actually, DL will not opup FB members, unless no SkyMiles member shows up). In addition, there are caveats to the point you are making. For instance, if I buy a ticket for an AFKL flight on DL stock, the XPs I will accrue on my FB account will not count towards Utimate status. In addition, if I buy a ticket for an AFKL flight in Y or W on DL stock, I will likely be denied access to the lounges at AMS and CDG (it happened to me a few times at the Platinum level ; never tried since I went up to Ultimate).

Keter

SU on its metal as a policy will only upgrade those booked on SU coded flights and will not do that on codeshares. Exceptions happen of course.
As for the FFP number i cannot say, most likely SU FFP will prevail over other SkyTeam as with other airlines.
Ticket stock not relevant but most SU flights are sold on SU anyways.

AlexBelt

I just got upgraded flying back from Vienna to Paris on Monday. Upgrade was made inside the plane with the Purser coming to our seats and asking us to follow her. We were granted 1D and 1F

It happened to me already couple of times including flights CDG-JFK-CDG.

Maybe is a question of been lucky.

Cheers,

Alex

Zarmakuizz

Upgraded on LYS->AMS from Y to "Business Europe" today. Second intra-europe upgrade in a year. FB Plat.
When I checked availability, there were 5 seats left in J out of 12, when flying only 2 J left, so 2-3 upgrades at most.
The next LYS->AMS flight of the day was already full in Y when looking for availabilities last month, so the season probably helped.

play3000

I never got an upgrade from AF/KLM since more than 10 years. I am platinum since 3 years, and was gold 2 years before that!
On Qatar, I was regularly upgraded between 2013 and 2015 (basic/silver/gold status), almost 50% of my flights, but since 2016, very rarely (one time this year, for a CDG-DOH flight, but a lot of PAX were upgraded that day). If I remember well, they change their privilege program policy end of 2015.

KL803

KL803

atflyer

Lucky you. I think the last free upgrade as STE+ was 2 years ago on a China Southern flight from Guangzhou to AMS. Apparently oversold in Y and my status made apparently a difference for the Chinese. For free upgrades on AF/KL, I must go back 8 to 10 years. Only paid upgrades afterwards.

FMTTM1

Only once in 10 years flying AF/KL (FB Plat). Got bumped from Prem Eco to Biz JFK-PAR but that was a while ago, they could do better.. especially since they do give free upgrades to DL Members through Delta's complementary certificates.

rfrn

Upgraded last week JFK-CDG from Y to W.

At OLCI, I could select business seats if I was willing to pay >$700 but could not select any premium economy seats. Stuck with my regular economy but check in failed due to a 'technical problem.'
Figured I would just check in at the airport and kiosk printed weirdly showed class of travel as premium economy and printed out a premium economy boarding pass.

Strange, as my only other experience with a free upgrade was done at the gate (KL, JFK-AMS, years ago).

Goldorak

Happy for you
Nothing strange here. Y was overbooked and likely heavily overbooked. Op-ups in case of overbooking can happen anytime : at check-in (OLCI/airport counter), at closing of check-in/at boarding and eventually on-board (happened to me a bunch of times, but of course it's rare). The more overbooked a flight is, the earlier the op-ups are processed usually.

B0gdan

Do you have status with Flying Blue/ST?