Fabo.sk

FB, so I guess the proper wording would be that I want to go for an experience gathering trip, but old habits die hard
Yes, I meant something like the O class.

Yes, I suppose it's only 2 XP. Might still be worth to go just for the destination.

Concerto

I managed to get my O-class ticket changed. I booked with Opodo, and they wouldn't reimburse under any circumstances even though I was within the 24 hour window, starting from FRA. Won't book with them again. Argument was that you have to cancel on the same date, whether or not within 24 hours. Won't book with them again. On the other hand, the agent was happy to look at the booking class situation and change it to the next class up .... for a price. Spent far too much on that ticket. But without that manoeuvre I would never have made it to FB Gold by March 31st last year.

Depending how badly you need the XPs, if you've already got a ticket it might be worth calling up whomever you booked the ticket with and trying to rebook into the next class up (can't remember what that was right now, I need to look it up, but it was something like 10-15 Euros difference).

Don't worry about the 2 XPs on flights to the Canaries, the Canary islands themselves are far more important than some XPs (each island is an amazing destination in its own right). And 2XPs is better than no XPs! It might, daftly, be worth looking at some inter-island flights, despite the 2XP limit. They can be had quite cheaply and might be a way of making 10-12 XPs up if one is short of them. There is no business class at all inter-island.

carnarvon

It may have been posted here, but I repeat just in case.

If you book through UX website, you can select seats for a fee. If you are FB Plat (Gold?), the fee is waved, even for exit row seats.

Unfortunately, if you book through AF website, this is not possible. I tried to retrieve my booking on UX website, but it failed. Called UX and was told "no, you can't". Called Plat line, and they couldn't help.

P.S. Reason for booking on AF website, was that I was flying from NTE to AGP and UX website would show very few flights out of NTE; and not the convenient one for me.

ROGERBCN

Concerto

But the bummer is you can't get lounge access on purely domestic flights, which is a SkyTeam thing. Apparently you get it as FB member on Air France domestic flights, but I don't do those very often and am out of touch.

I find UX actually quite pleasant for those short flights to the Balearics. I wouldn't really want to fly long distances with them in any class.

Zarmakuizz

I couldn't find the thread mentioning that AFKLM might do a JV with Air Europa for flights to Latin America...

Air Europa and Ryanair are stopping their codesharing. This might be related to the JV plan, or not.

Concerto

I had no idea that AirEuropa and Ryanair were codesharing, don't remember ever reading anything about it here or anywhere. Is that really the case, were they codesharing? Seems an odd tie-up, although both have similar service!

carnarvon

Must be the joke of the weekend.

Similar service? I did not know that FR had business class, lounge access, meaningful priority boarding (priority pax on a bus actually board last), a FFP, possibility to combine flights with luggage making the connection, normal telephone number to reach them, and maybe more. Or have I not been following up FR changes closely enough?

SteveCanary

I don't think they're exactly "codesharing" but Ryanair is "feeding" some UX long-haul flights.

Sorry, article in french: https://www.tourmag.com/Ryanair-et-A...at_a92336.html

carnarvon

Reality seems to contradict what the article says.

I went to FR website. No offer for long haul via MAD.

Then the statement from FR " Pour célébrer le développement de ce service, nous mettons des sièges en vente sur l’ensemble de notre réseau à partir de seulement 14.99 € pour voyager en Avril et disponibles à la réservation jusqu’à vendredi 23 mars 2018, minuit." ( To celebrate the development of this service, we are putting sales on our entire network from just € 14.99 for travel in April and available for booking until Friday, March 23, 2018, midnight. " ) makes no sense to me.

Which "service" is that? In case of delay of the feeder flight, what about the connecting LH flight? What about luggage?

If they sell flights for 14.99, then it cannot be LH. So how do you know the cost of the ticket?

Anyhow, if someone can find an example of LH destination on FR website, please let us know.

Concerto

Most interesting, I had no idea this was going on. It makes sense actually, if Ryanair wants to normalize its image a bit in the eyes of longhaul travellers. And also when you consider the graveyard of airlines in the last few weeks, the latest being bmi Regional today. Of course, this will in no way prevent such insolvencies from happening, but I think a greater cooperation of the remaining airlines would be a sensible line to follow from now.

carnarvon

Except that it does not seem to be materialising.

NickB

My understanding is that the partnership has ended.

Concerto

I didn't even know it had begun. So excuse my ignorance. But weren't other airlines considering such agreements with Ryanair and easyJet?

NickB

IIRC, it was a Ryanair initiative, who proposed to offer pre- and post-routing onto long-haul flights by other airlines. What they offered was not a standard IATA-like interline agreement. Ryanair did not offer to transfer bags nor to protect the flight in case of delay. That responsibility would have been borne by the onward carrier. Few carriers were interested in cooperating with Ryanair on those terms and I believe that UX were the only one.

AFAIK, Easyjet never contemplated any such scheme. However, Gatwick airport offers a "GatwickConnects" service that allows some kind of quasi-interlining from airlines that do not normally interline at Gatwick, including Easyjet. There are two versions of this: one is simply one of simplifying luggage transfer from one airline to another and the other offers flight protection in case of misconnect. In the first version you book the flights yourself. In the protected version, you need to book through them. More info can be found here