Flying Blue FAQ
Oct 14, 2018, 11:03 pm
#1006
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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Oct 15, 2018, 1:09 pm
#1007
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Flying Blue Silver
Posts: 123
I don't understand what you are saying. Does it mean FB Gold and up can access the lounge even on domestic AF flights? If so, since when is this the case?
Oct 15, 2018, 2:09 pm
#1008
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Other Skyteam airlines may have the same arrangements for their own Elite+ members
Oct 31, 2018, 2:07 pm
#1010
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: SAN, CDG
Programs: FB Plat
Posts: 59
Similar situation -
Here's my itinerary on DL,
Outbound: SAN - SLC (A) - YVR (A)
Should earn 175% miles for A, and 21 XP (6 for Domestic, 15 for Medium).
Inbound: YVR - SEA (Z) - SAN (Z)
So it seems my return on Z won't earn any XP, but the DL website doesn't show any other fare option (ie, no F, P, A, or G in advanced search) even though there are plenty of open seats remaining. Does a DL phone agent have access to other fares not available on the website?
Delta Domestic & Regional International (for flights within North America ...)Business Cabin (Called Domestic First class) F, P: 200%; A: 175%; G: 125%,Economy Cabin (Called Comfort +) W: 125%; (Called Main Cabin ) Y, B, M, 100%; H: 75%; Q, K, L: 50%; U, T, X, V; (Called Basic Economy) E: 25%
Here's my itinerary on DL,
Outbound: SAN - SLC (A) - YVR (A)
Should earn 175% miles for A, and 21 XP (6 for Domestic, 15 for Medium).
Inbound: YVR - SEA (Z) - SAN (Z)
So it seems my return on Z won't earn any XP, but the DL website doesn't show any other fare option (ie, no F, P, A, or G in advanced search) even though there are plenty of open seats remaining. Does a DL phone agent have access to other fares not available on the website?
Last edited by paris1000; Oct 31, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Nov 2, 2018, 4:04 am
#1011
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 756
Question: I understood that from 1 april 2018, all flights would be upgradeble subject to availability, regardless of booking class.
Now I see on the award ticket overview that there are J seats available for the flight I want, and can be paid with miles plus the additional usual fees and taxes.
But i can not upgrade my Y ticket with my miles on this flight. I called the PSL and they acknowledge that this promise is not happening and upgrades are just as scarce as they used to be.
What are your view on this matter? I feel cheated because it costs so much effort to collect the miles and once you have them, it is so difficult to use them.
Now I see on the award ticket overview that there are J seats available for the flight I want, and can be paid with miles plus the additional usual fees and taxes.
But i can not upgrade my Y ticket with my miles on this flight. I called the PSL and they acknowledge that this promise is not happening and upgrades are just as scarce as they used to be.
What are your view on this matter? I feel cheated because it costs so much effort to collect the miles and once you have them, it is so difficult to use them.
Nov 2, 2018, 7:32 am
#1012
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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Question: I understood that from 1 april 2018, all flights would be upgradeble subject to availability, regardless of booking class.
Now I see on the award ticket overview that there are J seats available for the flight I want, and can be paid with miles plus the additional usual fees and taxes.
But i can not upgrade my Y ticket with my miles on this flight. I called the PSL and they acknowledge that this promise is not happening and upgrades are just as scarce as they used to be.
What are your view on this matter? I feel cheated because it costs so much effort to collect the miles and once you have them, it is so difficult to use them.
Now I see on the award ticket overview that there are J seats available for the flight I want, and can be paid with miles plus the additional usual fees and taxes.
But i can not upgrade my Y ticket with my miles on this flight. I called the PSL and they acknowledge that this promise is not happening and upgrades are just as scarce as they used to be.
What are your view on this matter? I feel cheated because it costs so much effort to collect the miles and once you have them, it is so difficult to use them.
Nov 3, 2018, 12:07 am
#1014
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Nov 3, 2018, 1:54 am
#1015
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 466
Sorry, if this belongs elsewhere and I did read the threads, just want to make sure that I totally understand the status/XP thing.
I'm Silver and have 49 XP. My end date is 31-Dec-2018.
I have a trip later this month that will get me 90 XP (medium and long 1 in business - so 45 XP each way).
That gets me to 139 XP. So I maintain Silver but don't reset because I'm only matching what I'm already at.
In December, I have another 90 XP trip. The outbound (45 XP) gets me to 184 XP, which gets me Gold. At that point, I reset - go down to 4XP and the clock starts again (since the trip is in December, my new end-date just shifts a year to 31-December-2019). My return flight (another 45 XP) is also in December, but counts towards me new earning window (and I'll have 49 XP).
In 2019, I don't reset until/if I reach Platinum (300 XP).
Secondary question - how long does it take for status to change (i.e. how to get the Gold benefits)? My trip is about 20 days, so would I have Gold status on the return? I'll be in business anyway, so probably doesn't make much difference (i.e. already have priority and lounge access).
I'm Silver and have 49 XP. My end date is 31-Dec-2018.
I have a trip later this month that will get me 90 XP (medium and long 1 in business - so 45 XP each way).
That gets me to 139 XP. So I maintain Silver but don't reset because I'm only matching what I'm already at.
In December, I have another 90 XP trip. The outbound (45 XP) gets me to 184 XP, which gets me Gold. At that point, I reset - go down to 4XP and the clock starts again (since the trip is in December, my new end-date just shifts a year to 31-December-2019). My return flight (another 45 XP) is also in December, but counts towards me new earning window (and I'll have 49 XP).
In 2019, I don't reset until/if I reach Platinum (300 XP).
Secondary question - how long does it take for status to change (i.e. how to get the Gold benefits)? My trip is about 20 days, so would I have Gold status on the return? I'll be in business anyway, so probably doesn't make much difference (i.e. already have priority and lounge access).
Nov 5, 2018, 8:40 am
#1018
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MSP
Programs: AA, DL, AS
Posts: 183
I see where you can buy fully refundable economy tix that way, but that option doesn't seem to exist for business and La Premiere.
Boss wants AF, but it's for business, and things change at the drop of a hat. Has to be J or F.
This is something I should be able to deal with during the 1/2 of my work day where I'm on hold or burning time on a conference call.
Boss wants AF, but it's for business, and things change at the drop of a hat. Has to be J or F.
This is something I should be able to deal with during the 1/2 of my work day where I'm on hold or burning time on a conference call.
Nov 5, 2018, 2:25 pm
#1019
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,006
Sorry, if this belongs elsewhere and I did read the threads, just want to make sure that I totally understand the status/XP thing.
I'm Silver and have 49 XP. My end date is 31-Dec-2018.
I have a trip later this month that will get me 90 XP (medium and long 1 in business - so 45 XP each way).
That gets me to 139 XP. So I maintain Silver but don't reset because I'm only matching what I'm already at.
In December, I have another 90 XP trip. The outbound (45 XP) gets me to 184 XP, which gets me Gold. At that point, I reset - go down to 4XP and the clock starts again (since the trip is in December, my new end-date just shifts a year to 31-December-2019). My return flight (another 45 XP) is also in December, but counts towards me new earning window (and I'll have 49 XP).
In 2019, I don't reset until/if I reach Platinum (300 XP).
I'm Silver and have 49 XP. My end date is 31-Dec-2018.
I have a trip later this month that will get me 90 XP (medium and long 1 in business - so 45 XP each way).
That gets me to 139 XP. So I maintain Silver but don't reset because I'm only matching what I'm already at.
In December, I have another 90 XP trip. The outbound (45 XP) gets me to 184 XP, which gets me Gold. At that point, I reset - go down to 4XP and the clock starts again (since the trip is in December, my new end-date just shifts a year to 31-December-2019). My return flight (another 45 XP) is also in December, but counts towards me new earning window (and I'll have 49 XP).
In 2019, I don't reset until/if I reach Platinum (300 XP).
Secondary question - how long does it take for status to change (i.e. how to get the Gold benefits)? My trip is about 20 days, so would I have Gold status on the return? I'll be in business anyway, so probably doesn't make much difference (i.e. already have priority and lounge access).
I see where you can buy fully refundable economy tix that way, but that option doesn't seem to exist for business and La Premiere.
Boss wants AF, but it's for business, and things change at the drop of a hat. Has to be J or F.
This is something I should be able to deal with during the 1/2 of my work day where I'm on hold or burning time on a conference call.
Boss wants AF, but it's for business, and things change at the drop of a hat. Has to be J or F.
This is something I should be able to deal with during the 1/2 of my work day where I'm on hold or burning time on a conference call.
Nov 8, 2018, 1:52 am
#1020
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Accor Plat, IHG Diamond
Posts: 651
A strange one here, I have a 8+ hour layover at CDG soon, landing in 2F, leaving 2E.
Is it possible go through flight connections (I assume that I will need to go through to 2E and won't be allowed into the 2F lounge?), grab lunch in the lounge, then go airside to visit Paris before my evening flight?
Is it possible go through flight connections (I assume that I will need to go through to 2E and won't be allowed into the 2F lounge?), grab lunch in the lounge, then go airside to visit Paris before my evening flight?