KVS Availability Tool - AF/KL

Old Jul 7, 07, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by IRISHFLYER1 View Post
I wanr to check for award flying in Biz and Economy with AF/KLM from Dublin to Far east africa, I also want to be able to check Delta for awards and Upgrades from DUB to the USA.

Does KVS tool give both of these? If yes what level should I subscrbe to?
The Platinum-tier version can check award availability on virtually all SkyTeam airlines (CO/AF/NW/KL/DL/OK/SU). DL upgrade availability is not currently supported.
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Old Jul 11, 07, 1:38 am
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Originally Posted by Brobbel View Post
Just an update: on Sabre I saw also the I-class.

I contacted FB for an explanation which classes were used.

For an award ticket on KL they use W for economy and D for business (as stated)
For an upgrade ticket on KL you have to book B or S, for availability they look at Z or D.
For an open miles ticket on KL they look to the C (business) or S (economy) class.
And what about the extra Platinum availability? Is that just extra seats in these buckets or a separate bucket?

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Old May 17, 08, 2:42 am
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New business award class for ST Elite+

Originally Posted by KVS View Post
Over the last few months, I have been receiving certain AF-specific questions (such as 'which Air France revenue/award booking classes can it display?') from a number of KVS Availability Tool users.
AFAIK, a new business award booking class "E" is available for Elite Plus on USA/CANADA and French Polynesia.
Class "O" is always available .
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Old May 17, 08, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by delanotre View Post
AFAIK, a new business award booking class "E" is available for Elite Plus on USA/CANADA and French Polynesia.
Class "O" is always available .
Thanks for the info -- the AF booking class chart has now been updated.
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Old May 17, 08, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
[list][*]AF Booking Classes Displayed (award/upgrade classes are in green):[list][*]Apollo: ITN
  • C D Z F O Y S B R K V L U M H Q A X W T (Short-Haul)
  • P F A J C D I Z E Y B K H W T V L Q N S G U (Long-Haul)
[*]Sabre: ITN
  • C D Z F O Y S B K V L U M X (Short-Haul)
  • P F A J C D I Z E O Y B K H W T V (Long-Haul)
[*]Galileo: ETR
  • [TBD] (Short-Haul)
  • [TBD] (Long-Haul)
[*]ITA: Awards/SkyTeam[list]
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Award eco booking class "X" is also for long-haul, afaik
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Old May 17, 08, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by delanotre View Post
Award eco booking class "X" is also for long-haul
That's correct, but you have to use the [ITA: Awards/SkyTeam] Method to see it.
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Old May 23, 08, 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
  • AF Booking Classes Displayed (award/upgrade classes are in green):
    • Apollo: ITN
      • C D Z F O Y S B R K V L U M H Q A X W T (Short-Haul)
      • P F A J C D I Z E Y B K H W T V L Q N S G U (Long-Haul)
    • Sabre: ITN
      • C D Z F O Y S B K V L U M X (Short-Haul)
      • P F A J C D I Z E O Y B K H W T V (Long-Haul)
    • Galileo: ETR
      • [TBD] (Short-Haul)
      • [TBD] (Long-Haul)
    • ITA: Awards/SkyTeam
      • CS=O YS=X
      • (YA/CA Not Applicable)

IMHO, there is no F for short-haul flights. It's only for First on long-haul.
And still for short-haul W exists but is not an award class (it's 250 miles for domestic, and minimum 750 for European flights)
http://www.airfrance.fr/X01/fr/local...yteam.htm?#bc0

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Old Oct 20, 10, 9:07 pm
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Arrow Beta: New SkyTeam Award Availability Engine

Functionality includes access to FB Elite & Flex Awards on AF/KL, as well as DL/AZ/OK/RO/KQ/UX/CZ/VN Award Availability.

Interested Diamond-tier members are invited to RSVP using the link at http://www.KVSTool.com/
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Old Jun 1, 11, 1:08 pm
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The top post & AF/KL Award/Upgrade Booking Class chart at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_SkyTeam have now been updated to fully reflect the 01 Jun 2011 class re-alignment.
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Old Mar 26, 12, 12:37 pm
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Am I Interpreting this Correctly?

According to this query, there are 9 business award seats I can redeem DL miles for on AF 9 - JFK - CDG???

And the other AF flights, there are no more Business award seats??



[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
MON  14 May 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AF         23      JFK   16:50     CDG   06:00 +1           CX0  WA4
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           CX0  WA9
AF         11      JFK   21:55     CDG   11:10 +1           CX0  WA6
AF         9       JFK   23:20     CDG   12:30 +1           CS9  WS1
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Old Mar 26, 12, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by mrx900 View Post
According to this query, there are 9 business award seats I can redeem DL miles for on AF 9 - JFK - CDG???

And the other AF flights, there are no more Business award seats??
That is correct.
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Old Mar 30, 12, 12:55 pm
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Air Tahiti Nui Availability --Is this Correct?

Am I using the correct method to find C seats on Air Tahiti Nui from LAX? I want to redeem with DL miles...

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[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
PPT  Papeete Faaa PF [NTAA]
FRI  18 May 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------
                                                            No Award Availability/Route Too Complex/Date Out-Of-Range
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Old Mar 30, 12, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by mrx900 View Post
Am I using the correct method to find C seats on Air Tahiti Nui from LAX? I want to redeem with DL miles...
Why are you using the [Awards/SkyTeam] Method, especially with the AF/KL/KQ-only option?

As per http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes, you need to use the [Sabre: FS] Method:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.8/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
PPT  Papeete Faaa PF [NTAA]
FRI  18 May 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------
TN         101     LAX   23:50     PPT   05:20     343      P6 A0 J6 C4 D2 Z1 I0 R0 Y7 M7 K7 H7 T0 L0 V0 Q0 S0 O0 B0
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Old Nov 5, 13, 4:13 pm
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Forgive the newbie question, but ...

I'm trying to find availability on AF flights from JFK-CDG on 12/10/13 and returning on 12/13/13. On AirFrance.us I see "classic" availability on several flights on those dates which I thought meant I could use Delta skymiles to redeem for them. Delta says I can't and I don't see any availability on any AF flights when I do a search on KVS. What am I missing?

Thanks!
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Old Nov 5, 13, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by nycguy1978 View Post
Forgive the newbie question, but ...
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by nycguy1978 View Post
I'm trying to find availability on AF flights from JFK-CDG on 12/10/13 and returning on 12/13/13. On AirFrance.us I see "classic" availability on several flights on those dates which I thought meant I could use Delta skymiles to redeem for them. Delta says I can't and I don't see any availability on any AF flights when I do a search on KVS. What am I missing?
AF.com's continued use of the term "Classic" is rather misleading, as there is currently more than one type of "Classic" Award.

There is no Standard Y or C Award Availability on any of AF's non-stop flights on that date, but there are a few connecting options via LHR/BCN/FCO:

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardTypes for details.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.1/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle/Roissy FR [LFPG]
TUE  10 Dec 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AF         23      JFK   16:25     CDG   05:30 +1           CA9  WS9  YR9
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:30 +1           CA9  WS9  YM9
AF         9       JFK   23:25     CDG   12:30 +1           CA9  WS9  YM9
KL         642     JFK   17:55     AMS   07:20 +1           CA9  WX/  YR9
 -> AF     1341    AMS   10:45 +1  CDG   12:00 +1
KL         642     JFK   17:55     AMS   07:20 +1           CA9  WX/  YR9
 -> KL     1233    AMS   12:30 +1  CDG   13:45 +1
KL         642     JFK   17:55     AMS   07:20 +1           CA9  WX/  YR9
 -> AF     1241    AMS   09:30 +1  CDG   10:45 +1
KL         644     JFK   22:50     AMS   12:00 +1           CA9  WX/  YR9
 -> AF     1641    AMS   13:45 +1  CDG   15:00 +1
KL         644     JFK   22:50     AMS   12:00 +1           CA9  WX/  YR9
 -> AF     1741    AMS   14:40 +1  CDG   15:55 +1
KL         644     JFK   22:50     AMS   12:00 +1           CA9  WX/  YR9
 -> KL     1243    AMS   16:20 +1  CDG   17:45 +1
KL         644     JFK   22:50     AMS   12:00 +1           CA9  WX/  YM9
 -> KL     1245    AMS   17:45 +1  CDG   19:00 +1
DL         476     JFK   19:30     BCN   09:30 +1           CS0  WS/  YS+
 -> AF     1349    BCN   12:25 +1  CDG   14:20 +1
AZ         611     JFK   22:05     FCO   12:40 +1           CS+  WS/  YS0
 -> AZ     324     FCO   14:55 +1  CDG   17:05 +1
DL         401     JFK   18:20     LHR   06:35 +1           CS+  WS/  YS+
 -> AF     1481    LHR   08:20 +1  CDG   10:40 +1
DL         401     JFK   18:20     LHR   06:35 +1           CS+  WS/  YS0
 -> AF     1681    LHR   10:05 +1  CDG   12:25 +1

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