Marambio

Silver doesn’t get SkyPriority printed on the BP but just “Silver”. It’s zone 3 boarding, 1 free checked bag and free seat selection for standard seats. Using business class check in counters is hit or miss – I was a Silver for years and it usually worked in most outstations, but hardly ever at CDG. You clear security with the proletariat.

As said by others in this thread, Elite benefits don’t apply to Transavia.

offvoice

You wouldn't get the additional luggage *only* if the flight is HV-coded, right? If the code is KL, even though operated by Transavia, does one still get free luggage (if STE/STE+)? That was the case in the past (2019 at least).

irishguy28

Speaking for KLM only (maybe it's different for AF with TO), they don't sell tickets that include HV-coded segments; they only sell these under a KL codeshare.

Any ticket that includes HV - which they sell as KL-coded flights, in conjunction with at least one other flight on either KLM or KLM Cityhopper - there is no checked luggage entitlement for STE/STE+ on Light fares. See post 7 above which shows you the choices and options available (Light, Standard, Flex) while logged in as a Platinum member purchasing a DUB-AMS-FAO (the latter on HV) ticket; as you see at the top of the screengrab, the Flying Blue benefits are included in the ticket descriptions, given that I was logged in as Platinum.

The usual "plus one extra bag, due to status, added to the 0 that naturally comes with a Light fare" does not apply on "Light" tickets sold by KLM that include HV (as a KL-coded sector operated by HV).

(I'm running out of different ways to say the same thing )

MartijnH

It is at least a very grey area and up to the person behind the counter. May 2022, I had a AGP - AMS - ZWE (Antwerp train station) ticket, booked on KL website with KL numbers. AGP - AMS operated by HV. Indeed, when buying the ticket it didn't show anything like the fare selection screenshots above. Also no seat selection, manage my booking, online check-in etc. No reference to the Transavia bookingcode anywhere on the KL-website that would allow you to buy seat options, bags etc. But there is a thread here that goes in-depth about this. That thread also claimed that because of being KL-coded and marketed flight, SkyTeam Elite(+) baggage might apply.

At AGP as a Silver, I just handed over the KL booking confirmation, the FB Silver card and my bag on the belt. She just checked me in, no comment about the bag or so. So if she overrode the system, didn't know (could also be, because I didn't notice she labelled the bag to ZYR, causing a missort at AMS, and finally had to collect the bag at AMS when I was back in NL) or didn't want to make a fuss or it is unclear policy: best to assume you would have to pay something.

offvoice

Granted it's not a "recent" experience (2019), but I was definitely able to have my bag checked in on a light fare with a KL-coded, HV-operated flight as part of a broader KL itinerary - no seat selection though

MartijnH

Hmm.. looking back, I might have been lucky. Or at least they changed to wording. See pictures. In Dutch they did write 'the additional luggage allowance applies to flights operated by KLM/Air France'.

IAN-UK

I'm a simple soul, booking a straightforward AF ticket to travel as cheaply as possible between Paris and Manchester. No Transavia involvement. The website tells me that in spite of my Delta Elite+ credentials i have no SkyPriority privileges and need to pay for seat reservations and bags. And it is no bluff, going to the payment page the seat and bag charges show up.

Am I expecting too much from Air France, Delta and SkyTeam ?

irishguy28

Then you're barking up the wrong tree; you should go with Easyjet

https://www.easyjet.com/en/cheap-fli...rly/manchester

Your post would have fit better into this (very recent) thread: even if the reason your status isn't recognised turns out to be for a different reason. May I kindly suggest you post any followups in there, so we can keep this thread on the KL-HV topic? Thanks!

Delta Elite Status not Reflected in KLM/AF System

Fabo.sk

You are expecting too much of AFKL IT, they are showing you the situation without status benefits applied.

You will get SP and +1 bag,

ofj

could you try booking the ticket first, and then selecting seats after the reservation is confirmed? Maybe that could help.

IAN-UK

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That's what I was wondering. But it offers seat selection after logging my Delta credentials, yet the payment request is for the base fare + seat selection + the bag.

Corollary question: what is the "no SkyTeam" benefits all about ?


As you might have guessed, I'm on a learning curve with SkyTeam

irishguy28

Look again - it's "SkyPriority". See post 11 above. SkyPriority is effectively a brandname for a collection of features that come with First/Business Class tickets, and for Skyteam Elite Plus members travelling in Economy.

Are you sure that you actually have Skyteam Elite Plus status via Delta, then?

IAN-UK

My first port of call, but it's one of those days when even easyJet's base fare itops eur80, with the "essential" package boosting that by a further eur47

​​​​​​​Maybe we could get a friendly Mod to change this thread's title to reflect its KL-HV focus.

Maestro Ramen

Yeah, this thread title is slightly anxiogenic. To sum things up:
-FB silver+ continue to get luggage on light fares
-Likewise for delta elite
-Flights on transavia Y may or may not be excluded from Elite benefits, depending on your luck and/or yoir booking code.

ofj

I was confused when I first flew on SkyTeam as well. From my understanding (and feel free to correct me on this, since I just changed from *A to SkyTeam for the first time after 15 years or so) -

SkyPriority is the umbrella name for most of the SkyTeam Elite+ benefits. FB Silver = SkyTeam Elite only, not +, so Silver passengers do not receive the entire host of benefits (unless due to a premium cabin, etc). However, Silver passengers do receive an extra checked bag, elite check-in at the airport, etc. (the latter of which belongs to SkyPriority). So essentially, you are receiving some of the benefits ( extra bag, priority check-in, "minimal" priority boarding) but not all of them (priority security lane, full priority boarding, priority baggage, lounge access) - and thus will not officially have "SkyPriority access."

I think a good way to look at this would be to compare this to US citizenship, for example. There are citizens, and then there are green-card holders (permanent residents). Green card holders can (and have to) go through the "US nationals and residents" lane while returning back to America. Green card holders can live and work in the country indefinitely, and receive full social security benefits, healthcare, etc. Are Green card holders "Americans?" Legally, technically - absolutely no. Green card holders can be evicted from the country at any time if they break laws. They have no right to vote, cannot work in sensitive jobs requiring a security clearance, etc. Other countries have similar programs. So, for lack of a better comparison, SkyTeam Elite is somewhat like having legal residence in a country (a few SkyPriority benefits) while Elite+ is similar to being a CITIZEN (full SkyPriority access).

For comparison, AFAIK - the situation at *A and OW are quite different (at least in terms of labels), thus making it more complex (and interesting) when changing between airline alliances, IMHO.

Hope that helps!