VS to join Skyteam in early 2023

Old Mar 14, 23, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
Do you really think that the Virgin lounge dragon will quiz everyone trying to get in, trying to weed out Flying Blue Gold members holding an Upper Class boarding pass so that they can be denied entry?

EVERYONE travelling in Upper Class can use the Clubhouse; in fact, each Upper Class passenger can even bring a guest, too.

It's really not difficult. If your class of travel (Upper Class) qualifies for lounge access, you're in. If you're travelling in Economy Class, you have to able to show the relevant status in the relevant programme and be travelling on one of the particular airlines listed:

(And again for the avoidance of doubt; Flying Blue members travelling in "business class" on VS, DL or AM get into the Clubhouse; if they're travelling in business class on AF they only get into the Clubhouse if connecting to a La Premiere flight in CDG; for Flying Blue members travelling in Economy Class, there is no access to the Clubhouse, except for Platinums travelling in Economy Class on VS or DL)
Chill on the aggressive tone guys, it may be grasping at straws I am just trying to ascertain the angle of VS here. The only conclusion I can think of is that DL and KL-AF FFs are high volume at LHR and VS was to limit their number if they are only gold level. I only contest because it just didn't make much sense to myself, even if they specifically highlight FB and DM. There are other airlines in ST afterall that have 4 FF levels, with two tiers within the ST EP level that are not penalised in this way, as we can see on the website. It's just a shame those people have to go to the tiny Aspire lounge because they are with the "wrong" FF programme within the ST alliance.
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Old Mar 14, 23, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Lawrious
Chill on the aggressive tone guys, it may be grasping at straws I am just trying to ascertain the angle of VS here. The only conclusion I can think of is that DL and KL-AF FFs are high volume at LHR and VS was to limit their number if they are only gold level. I only contest because it just didn't make much sense to myself, even if they specifically highlight FB and DM. There are other airlines in ST afterall that have 4 FF levels, with two tiers within the ST EP level that are not penalised in this way, as we can see on the website. It's just a shame those people have to go to the tiny Aspire lounge because they are with the "wrong" FF programme within the ST alliance.
There are folks who have no lounge to go to for international flights because they have top-tier status in the wrong SkyTeam program...
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Old Mar 14, 23, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by hhdl
There are folks who have no lounge to go to for international flights because they have top-tier status in the wrong SkyTeam program...
I am sure that's the case, but if we assume people are flying with VS on a VS ticket, then their ST FF status will allow them into the CH in T3. I am trying to understand that aspect considering there are other airlines within ST have 4 FF levels with the top two typicallyproviding ST EP. E.g. CA's Dynasty Flyer has 4 levels and you are EP from Emerald status onwards. So, if you are CA DF Emerald flying on VS economy you can enter, but the equivalent FB gold member cannot. It is just a shame, because it kind of breaks part of the point of having these airline alliances in the first place if you start to pick and choose the perks for different FF programmes in this weird manner.
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Old Mar 14, 23, 8:52 pm
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My strong suspicion is that it's not VS making the decision. DL and AFKL have decided not to pay for golds to access the Clubhouse (just like DL apparently doesn't pay for contract lounge access for their elites and no longer allows their own elites to access DL's SkyClubs).
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Old Mar 15, 23, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by Lawrious
It is just a shame, because it kind of breaks part of the point of having these airline alliances in the first place if you start to pick and choose the perks for different FF programmes in this weird manner.
Go and try star alliance as gold while flying in Y with other airline members , trust me you will loose your mind after 3 months .

As you said , its targetted cherrypicking , i 100% agree with you . They are opening a pandora box that we are afraid other members can be tempted to use in the future , but at least these VS lounge rules are written and somewhere easy to find at least
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