Best Airline for ATL - AMS (currently)
#16
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Business Class / First Class, just semantics of the front of the plane. In reality Business class is usually lie flat seats where first is just a big seat. When the opposite used to be true. You can call the classes anything you want, really there is back - middle - front and sometimes just back and front. Unless you get on a wonderful 747, then the best is upper deck. JMHO
#17
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Again, not semantics. Or rather, semantics in the sense that the two signifiers are not interchangeable, and signify different things. International first class exists and is very different from North American ("domestic") first class. It's also considerably more expensive than business class, and is for the least price-sensitive customers, who appreciate caviar, apron transfers, in-flight showers, and rubber ducks. The fact that there is no direct first class service from ATL to AMS is beside the point.
Also, the top deck of 747s is not always for the highest level of service. Back many years ago, AF had non-smoking economy up there. And LH has business class up there, and first in the nose (where it's quieter).
Also, the top deck of 747s is not always for the highest level of service. Back many years ago, AF had non-smoking economy up there. And LH has business class up there, and first in the nose (where it's quieter).
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Again, not semantics. Or rather, semantics in the sense that the two signifiers are not interchangeable, and signify different things. International first class exists and is very different from North American ("domestic") first class. It's also considerably more expensive than business class, and is for the least price-sensitive customers, who appreciate caviar, apron transfers, in-flight showers, and rubber ducks. The fact that there is no direct first class service from ATL to AMS is beside the point.
Also, the top deck of 747s is not always for the highest level of service. Back many years ago, AF had non-smoking economy up there. And LH has business class up there, and first in the nose (where it's quieter).
Also, the top deck of 747s is not always for the highest level of service. Back many years ago, AF had non-smoking economy up there. And LH has business class up there, and first in the nose (where it's quieter).
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I'm not sure you're being serious .. It says you're AA ExPlt so surely you've seen AA international F, for example? Some airlines operate eco+biz, others up to four class service.
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La Premiere is First. Business is Business, also known as Affaires sometimes.
Other airlines just call First First.
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Before business class became a thing in the late 70s, there was just first class and tourist/coach/economy class for the most part. Towards the mid-80s, a lot of airlines, including Delta, phased out first-class, but a lot didn't. In any event, DeltaOne is most certainly marketed and sold as business class.
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I really hate the play on names all of the airlines do to market. You either have a 2 class or 3 class plane. The names are annoying, because they mean nothing. First on one airline may be better than another airline, but first may also be worse than business on some airlines. It is the airline that can make the difference. I wonder about Virgin or Air Canada sometimes, they may have a better _____ front of the plane experience, but I don't know.
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#30
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I was gonna say, I can name a bunch of airlines with 4 class aeroplanes. Lufthansa, Singapore, Cathay Pacific (I forget if they discontinued it), etc.....it's a very different level of service/product.