The Platinum Effect
Mar 18, 23, 7:27 am
#211
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 1,273
Ahh yes - if you're only flying domestically, then that's right I believe - you won't be able to earn UXP due to the issue you mentioned. For someone who flies only or majority domestic routes, Flying Blue might not be the best option due to the paltry 2xp 6xp in domestic F (coded as J) per segment.
Mar 19, 23, 7:49 am
#212
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
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I don't think that you will find US domestic flight under AF code with an OTA either: AF-coded US domestic flights are only sold in conjunction with an international flight. I don't think that it would even be legal to do so, as, AFAIK, it would fall foul of the US cabotage rules.
Mar 19, 23, 3:46 pm
#213
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
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I don't think that you will find US domestic flight under AF code with an OTA either: AF-coded US domestic flights are only sold in conjunction with an international flight. I don't think that it would even be legal to do so, as, AFAIK, it would fall foul of the US cabotage rules.
Mar 21, 23, 2:37 am
#214
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue - Platinum
Posts: 70
JFK - CDG last night in Y. Proactively greeted by the purser right after take off and offered a glass of champagne and snacks from J. Middle seat kept empty next to me on an almost full flight. Purser continued to check in and when he saw me stand up came over to suggest I use the bathrooms dedicated for the Premium Economy cabin.
Very pleasant service throughout and a nice example of how Platinum members can be made to feel appreciated. It almost made up for the absolutely awful food they continue to serve in Y. Such a pity since it used to be at least acceptable.
Very pleasant service throughout and a nice example of how Platinum members can be made to feel appreciated. It almost made up for the absolutely awful food they continue to serve in Y. Such a pity since it used to be at least acceptable.
Mar 21, 23, 7:00 am
#215
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Montreux CH
Programs: FB Platinum, M&M FTL, BA Blue
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Isn't that more an issue with the station of departure though? Food is very much dependent these days on where it is loaded rather than what the airline would want to give you.
Mar 21, 23, 7:12 am
#216
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue - Platinum
Posts: 70
TBH, I’m not sure that’s true with AF these days. I’ve had great meals out of CDG and JFK in J with them. But when travelling economy I have found that the food lately has been appalling wherever you fly from. Certainly compared to 5 or 6 years ago there has been a big drop in quality of their Y catering.
Mar 21, 23, 8:07 am
#217
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FRA/SXB
Programs: FB Gold
Posts: 1,348
I've found Y food on long-haul AF to be acceptable out of CDG. There was a fish cream risotto on my flight last month CDG-ATL that was decent.
Comparing things to 5-6 year ago isn't fair, because people like me working in finance do our jobs.
Comparing things to 5-6 year ago isn't fair, because people like me working in finance do our jobs.
Mar 21, 23, 10:27 am
#218
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue - Platinum
Posts: 70
That sounds great! I guess I’ve just had bad luck but I feel like the choices are invariably rubbery chicken in grey sauce or soggy pasta in a tiny amount of tomato sauce.
I get that things change with time but I fine the food quality (especially the little second meal bags) is poor when compared with even KLM. Just seems like an odd strategy.
I get that things change with time but I fine the food quality (especially the little second meal bags) is poor when compared with even KLM. Just seems like an odd strategy.
Mar 21, 23, 10:39 am
#219
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: BLQ/DEN
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, United Premier Silver
Posts: 137
That sounds great! I guess I’ve just had bad luck but I feel like the choices are invariably rubbery chicken in grey sauce or soggy pasta in a tiny amount of tomato sauce.
I get that things change with time but I fine the food quality (especially the little second meal bags) is poor when compared with even KLM. Just seems like an odd strategy.
I get that things change with time but I fine the food quality (especially the little second meal bags) is poor when compared with even KLM. Just seems like an odd strategy.
Mar 21, 23, 2:30 pm
#220
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 651
Last week I flew KL AMS-ATL and the pasta was truly delicious. Uncomplicated but just nice. A flavor of tomatoes and pasta with Parmesan, plus a crispy and hot piece of bread. It isn’t rocket science but I really enjoyed it. So yes, Y food can be delicious.
Mar 21, 23, 2:37 pm
#221
Join Date: May 2021
Programs: Flying Blue - Platinum
Posts: 70
Food on AF in Y is indeed truly terrible both in and out of CDG. Last year on CDG-YUL I had chicken and mash, there was a slimy something in the chicken that made me gag🙈.
Last week I flew KL AMS-ATL and the pasta was truly delicious. Uncomplicated but just nice. A flavor of tomatoes and pasta with Parmesan, plus a crispy and hot piece of bread. It isn’t rocket science but I really enjoyed it. So yes, Y food can be delicious.
Last week I flew KL AMS-ATL and the pasta was truly delicious. Uncomplicated but just nice. A flavor of tomatoes and pasta with Parmesan, plus a crispy and hot piece of bread. It isn’t rocket science but I really enjoyed it. So yes, Y food can be delicious.
Mar 22, 23, 2:36 am
#222
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 651
Yes!! Exactly this. KLM food in Y is uncomplicated and certainly not fancy. But it is usually simple and tasty (for what it’s worth - their Premium Economy food is really good!) and the warm bread roll makes such a difference. I do not understand how AF (who make such a song and dance about their food) can get it so wrong in Y.
Mar 22, 23, 8:49 am
#224
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I agree that AF Y food quality (and quantity) has decreased. The main meal remains acceptable ex-CDG, but is absolutely indedible ex-US. And the 2nd light meal/bon appétit bag is a complete joke in/out CDG.
It's a pity as AF Y food was clearly much better than many other airlines (Asia apart of course).
It's a pity as AF Y food was clearly much better than many other airlines (Asia apart of course).
Mar 22, 23, 11:45 am
#225
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 651
I agree that AF Y food quality (and quantity) has decreased. The main meal remains acceptable ex-CDG, but is absolutely indedible ex-US. And the 2nd light meal/bon appétit bag is a complete joke in/out CDG.
It's a pity as AF Y food was clearly much better than many other airlines (Asia apart of course).
It's a pity as AF Y food was clearly much better than many other airlines (Asia apart of course).
