The Platinum Effect

Old Mar 18, 23, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by ofj
Ahh yes - if you're only flying domestically, then that's right I believe - you won't be able to earn UXP due to the issue you mentioned. For someone who flies only or majority domestic routes, Flying Blue might not be the best option due to the paltry 2xp 6xp in domestic F (coded as J) per segment.
On short domestic F/J segments (less than something like 1000 miles, depending on targeting Gold or Platinum... if not going west of the Rockies often, it's not difficult to take a DTW/MSP/ATL/LGA connection and keep the average length well below that), there's a gulf between DL elite credit and FB elite credit. 50 segments of 1000 mile distance will get you FB or DL Plat (assuming you meet the the MQD requirement, which would mean $12k or $240/segment... $25k of credit card spend would eliminate that requirement, but $15k on the FB card (which is easier to rack up big spend on...) cuts the segment requirement (at $30k on the DL Reserve, you'd get a similar ratio reduction in flying through the MQM boost)).
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Old Mar 19, 23, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
All correct, except that you can book with OTA (you don’t have to booked on AFKL sites).
I don't think that you will find US domestic flight under AF code with an OTA either: AF-coded US domestic flights are only sold in conjunction with an international flight. I don't think that it would even be legal to do so, as, AFAIK, it would fall foul of the US cabotage rules.
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Old Mar 19, 23, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by NickB
I don't think that you will find US domestic flight under AF code with an OTA either: AF-coded US domestic flights are only sold in conjunction with an international flight. I don't think that it would even be legal to do so, as, AFAIK, it would fall foul of the US cabotage rules.
Definitely. I didn't say differently.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 2:37 am
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JFK - CDG last night in Y. Proactively greeted by the purser right after take off and offered a glass of champagne and snacks from J. Middle seat kept empty next to me on an almost full flight. Purser continued to check in and when he saw me stand up came over to suggest I use the bathrooms dedicated for the Premium Economy cabin.

Very pleasant service throughout and a nice example of how Platinum members can be made to feel appreciated. It almost made up for the absolutely awful food they continue to serve in Y. Such a pity since it used to be at least acceptable.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 7:00 am
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Isn't that more an issue with the station of departure though? Food is very much dependent these days on where it is loaded rather than what the airline would want to give you.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto
Isn't that more an issue with the station of departure though? Food is very much dependent these days on where it is loaded rather than what the airline would want to give you.
TBH, Im not sure thats true with AF these days. Ive had great meals out of CDG and JFK in J with them. But when travelling economy I have found that the food lately has been appalling wherever you fly from. Certainly compared to 5 or 6 years ago there has been a big drop in quality of their Y catering.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 8:07 am
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I've found Y food on long-haul AF to be acceptable out of CDG. There was a fish cream risotto on my flight last month CDG-ATL that was decent.

Comparing things to 5-6 year ago isn't fair, because people like me working in finance do our jobs.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 10:27 am
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That sounds great! I guess Ive just had bad luck but I feel like the choices are invariably rubbery chicken in grey sauce or soggy pasta in a tiny amount of tomato sauce.

I get that things change with time but I fine the food quality (especially the little second meal bags) is poor when compared with even KLM. Just seems like an odd strategy.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by Concerto
Isn't that more an issue with the station of departure though? Food is very much dependent these days on where it is loaded rather than what the airline would want to give you.
That's what I always thought after systematically observing worse quality food with US origin cities than FR/IT origin cities, shall I say not surprisingly

Originally Posted by Fates
That sounds great! I guess Ive just had bad luck but I feel like the choices are invariably rubbery chicken in grey sauce or soggy pasta in a tiny amount of tomato sauce.

I get that things change with time but I fine the food quality (especially the little second meal bags) is poor when compared with even KLM. Just seems like an odd strategy.
I totally second this entire sentiment and I also feel like food quality in Y on AF has decreased (I haven't flown KLM quite as often in the last couple of years to be able to say). I mean... I guess it's an airplane haha. Very happy with food in J on AF though!
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Old Mar 21, 23, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Fates
It almost made up for the absolutely awful food they continue to serve in Y. Such a pity since it used to be at least acceptable.
Food on AF in Y is indeed truly terrible both in and out of CDG. Last year on CDG-YUL I had chicken and mash, there was a slimy something in the chicken that made me gag🙈.
Last week I flew KL AMS-ATL and the pasta was truly delicious. Uncomplicated but just nice. A flavor of tomatoes and pasta with Parmesan, plus a crispy and hot piece of bread. It isnt rocket science but I really enjoyed it. So yes, Y food can be delicious.
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Old Mar 21, 23, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by BobTL
Food on AF in Y is indeed truly terrible both in and out of CDG. Last year on CDG-YUL I had chicken and mash, there was a slimy something in the chicken that made me gag🙈.
Last week I flew KL AMS-ATL and the pasta was truly delicious. Uncomplicated but just nice. A flavor of tomatoes and pasta with Parmesan, plus a crispy and hot piece of bread. It isnt rocket science but I really enjoyed it. So yes, Y food can be delicious.
Yes!! Exactly this. KLM food in Y is uncomplicated and certainly not fancy. But it is usually simple and tasty (for what its worth - their Premium Economy food is really good!) and the warm bread roll makes such a difference. I do not understand how AF (who make such a song and dance about their food) can get it so wrong in Y.
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Old Mar 22, 23, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by Fates
Yes!! Exactly this. KLM food in Y is uncomplicated and certainly not fancy. But it is usually simple and tasty (for what its worth - their Premium Economy food is really good!) and the warm bread roll makes such a difference. I do not understand how AF (who make such a song and dance about their food) can get it so wrong in Y.
I just flew JFK-AMS and ordered again the pasta as a comparison. But the difference is night and day, not in a good way. The pasta had a processed tomato sauce and the bun was stale and cold. Terrible.
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Old Mar 22, 23, 4:39 am
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Another nice attention from AF crew on my last flight to SIN in Y : I got the meal tray from W and Champagne from J.
Also seat next to me was empty on an almost full flight.
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Old Mar 22, 23, 8:49 am
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I agree that AF Y food quality (and quantity) has decreased. The main meal remains acceptable ex-CDG, but is absolutely indedible ex-US. And the 2nd light meal/bon apptit bag is a complete joke in/out CDG.
It's a pity as AF Y food was clearly much better than many other airlines (Asia apart of course).
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Old Mar 22, 23, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
I agree that AF Y food quality (and quantity) has decreased. The main meal remains acceptable ex-CDG, but is absolutely indedible ex-US. And the 2nd light meal/bon apptit bag is a complete joke in/out CDG.
It's a pity as AF Y food was clearly much better than many other airlines (Asia apart of course).
True but KL overtook then in Y as total product.
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