ITA Airways finally listed as Flying Blue Partner - with a twist
Mar 24, 22, 2:35 am
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ITA Airways finally listed as Flying Blue Partner - with a twist
Finally ITA airways is listed as partner airline on the Flying Blue page.
However you can ONLY earn when flying them on a AF/KL flight number
You will earn Miles like you normally do on Air France and/or KLM-marketed flights.
(1) Earning Miles and gaining XP isnt possible for:
https://www.flyingblue.de/en/earn-sp...ion?country=DE
That's the shittiest SkyTeam partner integration in the Flying Blue program. I hope this will change somewhere in the future.
However you can ONLY earn when flying them on a AF/KL flight number
EARN MILES AND GAIN XP
Earn Miles and gain XP on flights marketed as Air France (AF) and/or KLM (KL) and operated by ITA Airways (AZ).You will earn Miles like you normally do on Air France and/or KLM-marketed flights.
(1) Earning Miles and gaining XP isnt possible for:
- Reward tickets (tickets booked using Miles)
- Flights marketed as ITA Airways (AZ) and operated by ITA Airways (AZ)
https://www.flyingblue.de/en/earn-sp...ion?country=DE
That's the shittiest SkyTeam partner integration in the Flying Blue program. I hope this will change somewhere in the future.
Mar 24, 22, 2:56 am
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Well, as far as miles and XP earning is concerned, it is the same as no integration at all: you always earn miles and XPs on a AF or KL-coded flight, even when it is operated by a non-partner. As far as I can see, the only form of integration is the "enjoying Skyteam benefits worldwide", so things like priority check-in and boarding, lounge access, extra baggage, etc... It remains to be seen how that works in reality.
Mar 24, 22, 3:16 am
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Well, as far as miles and XP earning is concerned, it is the same as no integration at all: you always earn miles and XPs on a AF or KL-coded flight, even when it is operated by a non-partner. As far as I can see, the only form of integration is the "enjoying Skyteam benefits worldwide", so things like priority check-in and boarding, lounge access, extra baggage, etc... It remains to be seen how that works in reality.
Mar 24, 22, 4:15 am
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Well that's just useless. I hope they update it soon, otherwise it's a real joke.
The summer schedule is starting next week, I suppose it might be the first time there actually are codeshares on ITA metal available? If so, it could be just because of that, cause there's effectively no change. You could always earn on all KL/AF coded flights on all partners even non-alliance, and ITA did honor STE+ benefits even before they officially joined SkyTeam. I had SkyPriority and free bag back in October (no lounges were open back then)
The summer schedule is starting next week, I suppose it might be the first time there actually are codeshares on ITA metal available? If so, it could be just because of that, cause there's effectively no change. You could always earn on all KL/AF coded flights on all partners even non-alliance, and ITA did honor STE+ benefits even before they officially joined SkyTeam. I had SkyPriority and free bag back in October (no lounges were open back then)
Mar 24, 22, 5:01 am
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Well that's just useless. I hope they update it soon, otherwise it's a real joke.
The summer schedule is starting next week, I suppose it might be the first time there actually are codeshares on ITA metal available? If so, it could be just because of that, cause there's effectively no change. You could always earn on all KL/AF coded flights on all partners even non-alliance, and ITA did honor STE+ benefits even before they officially joined SkyTeam. I had SkyPriority and free bag back in October (no lounges were open back then)
The summer schedule is starting next week, I suppose it might be the first time there actually are codeshares on ITA metal available? If so, it could be just because of that, cause there's effectively no change. You could always earn on all KL/AF coded flights on all partners even non-alliance, and ITA did honor STE+ benefits even before they officially joined SkyTeam. I had SkyPriority and free bag back in October (no lounges were open back then)
Mar 24, 22, 8:55 am
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Happen to me 2weeks ago and it's written on the webiste of ITA and i was flying on an ITA flight and ITA marketed flight so for you on a KL one for sure you'll not enter
Mar 24, 22, 10:35 am
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At FCO AF/KL has only an aggrement with the Plaza Premium Lounge, they don't pay the ITA lounge and ITA will not let you in
Happen to me 2weeks ago and it's written on the webiste of ITA and i was flying on an ITA flight and ITA marketed flight so for you on a KL one for sure you'll not enter
Happen to me 2weeks ago and it's written on the webiste of ITA and i was flying on an ITA flight and ITA marketed flight so for you on a KL one for sure you'll not enter
Anyway the point is, Plaza Premium for KL flights, not ITA lounge.
Mar 24, 22, 12:05 pm
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And of course the answer is: No.
The operating airline (KL) will pay for admittance to "their" lounge (Plaza Premium), so KL will not pay for their passengers to use the ITA lounge (no such contract exists at FCO - yet!)
Mar 24, 22, 12:11 pm
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No; the configuration is (look back to point #5): FCO-AMS, flying KL, ITA Lounge.
And of course the answer is: No.
The operating airline (KL) will pay for admittance to "their" lounge (Plaza Premium), so KL will not pay for their passengers to use the ITA lounge (no such contract exists at FCO - yet!)
And of course the answer is: No.
The operating airline (KL) will pay for admittance to "their" lounge (Plaza Premium), so KL will not pay for their passengers to use the ITA lounge (no such contract exists at FCO - yet!)
Anyway the Plaza Premium lounge is cool as well and I now know that I have to directly approach the Plaza Premium lounge instead of the ITA lounge.
Mar 24, 22, 1:25 pm
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Skyteam should not have rushed to announce that ITA is a member, when for all intents and purposes it still appears to have a very long way to go to being a full member...
Mar 24, 22, 6:13 pm
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Mar 25, 22, 7:31 am
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Mar 25, 22, 8:30 am
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In the reverse, I'm hoping to use AF lounges on long haul this weekend with SkyTeam Elite Plus from ITA this weekend and next but the AF Facebook team couldn't let me know if it was going to work. I have PP backups just in case but I'll report back.
