ITA (ex AZ) partner of skyteam but FB?
Dec 28, 21, 5:46 am
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ITA (ex AZ) partner of skyteam but FB?
Hi, I've flown a FCO-LHR operated by ITA with ETKT 055xxx.
Asking for a claim to earn miles to FB customer service, they reply to me as follow: ITA is not partner of FlyingBlue program and, for so, we cannot credit your miles.
I know that ITA is partner of Skyteam, how is it possible that I cannot earn miles with flyingblue?
Asking for a claim to earn miles to FB customer service, they reply to me as follow: ITA is not partner of FlyingBlue program and, for so, we cannot credit your miles.
I know that ITA is partner of Skyteam, how is it possible that I cannot earn miles with flyingblue?
Dec 28, 21, 6:29 am
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Most likely - because those agreements haven't been made yet. ITA is still in the process of even being able to offer premium services to their own business class passengers (From what I hear lounge access is not available, for instance). I'm guessing that they simply haven't made any arrangements with external FFPs about earning rates. Is it possible to collect miles with their own FFP at this time?
Dec 28, 21, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by AZ112
they reply to me as follow: ITA is not partner of FlyingBlue program and, for so, we cannot credit your miles.
I know that ITA is partner of Skyteam, how is it possible that I cannot earn miles with flyingblue?
I know that ITA is partner of Skyteam, how is it possible that I cannot earn miles with flyingblue?
So give other ST airlines time to create new charts for ITA , will take few weeks or months
Dec 28, 21, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by Xandrios
Most likely - because those agreements haven't been made yet. ITA is still in the process of even being able to offer premium services to their own business class passengers (From what I hear lounge access is not available, for instance). I'm guessing that they simply haven't made any arrangements with external FFPs about earning rates. Is it possible to collect miles with their own FFP at this time?
But for instance, it is now possible add a Skymiles number during the booking procedures on ITA website.
Dec 28, 21, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by fifty_two
ITA is a full skyteam member not partner , however it is possible that FB havent updated yet their T&C to include ITA , however i can see they removed AZ already from their website
So give other ST airlines time to create new charts for ITA , will take few weeks or months
So give other ST airlines time to create new charts for ITA , will take few weeks or months
Dec 28, 21, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by AZ112
come on, member or partner...
Meanwhile PS is a KL partner , you can earn miles with them but they are not ST members , so KL can simply do codeshare with them , never think about reciprocity , and you wont earn anything on FB at all and vice-versa for Panorama members
Dec 28, 21, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by fifty_two
Yes but there is a distinction between partners and members ..... my point is that as a full member in theory FB and all FFP of ST must publish a chart about earnings from ITA but its not done yet
Meanwhile PS is a KL partner , you can earn miles with them but they are not ST members , so KL can simply do codeshare with them , never think about reciprocity , and you wont earn anything on FB at all and vice-versa for Panorama members
Meanwhile PS is a KL partner , you can earn miles with them but they are not ST members , so KL can simply do codeshare with them , never think about reciprocity , and you wont earn anything on FB at all and vice-versa for Panorama members
I think it is more likely a problem of adaptation / updating of Skyteam partners about the new ITA entry.
Last edited by AZ112; Dec 29, 21 at 1:43 am
Dec 28, 21, 1:12 pm
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I believe the problem is more on ITA side than on ST/all ST airlines side. ITA is still not able to launch their own FFP (it's delayed again) and associated benefits, so benefits on/with other airlines will come after.
Dec 28, 21, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by AZ112
what you claim, if I understand correctly, is something else that is: an airline (ITA) is a partner of an alliance (SkyTeam) even without necessarily having an agreement with the other partners of that alliance (SkyTeam).
Originally Posted by AZ112
I think it is more likely a problem of adaptation / updating of Skyteam partners about the new ITA entry.
