Denying gold benefits
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Denying gold benefits
While checking in luggage at Bergen airport. The agent behind the counter says I have to pay for luggage. I show my gold card and skyteam elite plus mark on the ticket. No, is the answer. Gold does not give free luggage. I simply say, that is wrong. She asks the young KLM agent next to her, wich agrees with her patron...
I show her KLMs benefits on the website.
She calls s collegue, wich obviously tells her that gold has free luggage. I hear she says «I had forgotten that» on the phone. When getting back to me she plays the hero, and says she has overrunned the system and done me a favour. Ie; I am the lucky (and guilty one).
Soon 101 years in the skies...
I show her KLMs benefits on the website.
She calls s collegue, wich obviously tells her that gold has free luggage. I hear she says «I had forgotten that» on the phone. When getting back to me she plays the hero, and says she has overrunned the system and done me a favour. Ie; I am the lucky (and guilty one).
Soon 101 years in the skies...
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Hi
Just to be sure , you were travelling on a KL flight operated by KLM ?
i guess at bergen these employees are contractors , which are assigned to all airlines and therefore may not be aware of the rules of each airline
For instance LH/LX light fare don't have luggages included regardless of status
So in your case you can probably blame the bad quality training these employees received and/or misconfiguration in their systems
Please submit a complain to KLM online , so they will receive feedbacks
Next time if you have to pay , then pay , keep the receipt and submit a claim to KLM for reimbursement and a complain
As a reminder , always carry your physical card with you
Just to be sure , you were travelling on a KL flight operated by KLM ?
i guess at bergen these employees are contractors , which are assigned to all airlines and therefore may not be aware of the rules of each airline
For instance LH/LX light fare don't have luggages included regardless of status
So in your case you can probably blame the bad quality training these employees received and/or misconfiguration in their systems
Please submit a complain to KLM online , so they will receive feedbacks
Next time if you have to pay , then pay , keep the receipt and submit a claim to KLM for reimbursement and a complain
As a reminder , always carry your physical card with you
Last edited by fifty_two; Feb 6, 20 at 12:09 pm
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because some agents in 3rd party lounges or checkin desks or fast-tracks are not aware of rules , and don't even recognize electronic cards or electronic boarding passes and may ask you to prove membership, this happen in remote stations especially
The issue OP had was due to something else , but what i mentionned was an additional advice
thanks for confirmation
Wearing uniform doesnt really mean anything these days , they are probably just contractors hired by a third party company working part time as a side job on behalf of KLM
The issue OP had was due to something else , but what i mentionned was an additional advice
thanks for confirmation
Wearing uniform doesnt really mean anything these days , they are probably just contractors hired by a third party company working part time as a side job on behalf of KLM
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I would recommend that you send a brief note via the KLM website contact forms. They need to be alerted to the scale of the misinformation being peddled by their various handling agencies...
That didn't help me!
If an agent thinks that Gold and/or Platinum doesn't allow a checked bag over the terms of the ticket, then waving a physical card in front of them isn't going to change their mind.
Even showing him the website, and the luggage allowance displayed in my booking in the KLM app, didn't help.
The only thing that "helped" was when he "rang Amsterdam" and got "permission to waive the €45 fee" which I was apparently supposed to accept as a huge favour!!!

WISAG check-in staff at TXL
Last edited by irishguy28; Feb 7, 20 at 2:44 am
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What i mentionned was an additional advice , because some agents in 3rd party lounges or checkin desks or fast-tracks are not aware of rules , and don't even recognize electronic cards or electronic boarding passes and may ask you to prove membership, this happen in remote stations especially
The only thing that "helped" was when he "rang Amsterdam" and got "permission to waive the €45 fee" which I was apparently supposed to accept as a huge favour!!! 
WISAG check-in staff at TXL

WISAG check-in staff at TXL
Last edited by fifty_two; Feb 7, 20 at 3:51 am
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It used to infuriate me when I was younger. As I get older, and perhaps very fractionally wiser, I tend to chuckle internally but let it go and smile and thank them. It is their way of keeping face and, IME, nothing good ever comes from people feeling trapped and losing face. If it was a backroom supervisor being particularly difficult and obnoxious, I would perhaps feel somewhat differently (and even then....) but frontline agents need to find their way to keep their composure and soldier on and, for some, that little device is their way of doing it.
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