Qantas and Flying Blue: new partnership

Old Dec 9, 2019, 6:02 am
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Qantas and Flying Blue: new partnership

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Hi All,

I would like to share the following news: Qantas (QF) will join Flying Blue as a partner airline as of 9 December 2019. In case you would like to know what this means for you, please read below (and also on the Flying Blue website).

As of 9 December 2019, all Flying Blue members will be able to:
- earn miles;
- earn XP on eligible flights (provided flights are booked in a mileage earning fare class);
- earn Elite bonus miles;
- spend miles
- extent overall validity of miles.

Earn miles

Earning will take place based on the fare class and distance flown according to the following scheme:

- First class: F, A (150%);
- Business class: J, C, D (125%); I (100%);
- Premium economy: W (110%); R (100%); T (75%);
- Economy: Y, B (100%); H (75%); K, M (50%); L, S, V (25%); G, N, O, Q (20%).

Elite benefits

In addition, Flying Blue Silver members will receive the following benefits when flying QF:
- additional baggage (1 piece or 23 KG above standard allowance).

In addition, Flying Blue Gold, Platinum (Ultimate) and Club 2000 (Skipper) will receive the following benefits when flying QF:
- additional baggage (1 piece or 23 KG above standard allowance);
- priority check-in;
- priority baggage handling;
- priority boarding;
- access to preferred seats.

QF Silver members travelling on AF/KL will receive the following benefits:
- additional baggage (1 piece above standard allowance).

QF Gold, Platinum and Platinum One members travelling on AF/KL will receive the Skypriority designation benefits when flying AF/KL. Their benefits include the following benefits:
- additional baggage (1 piece above standard allowance);
- priority check-in;
- priority baggage handling;
- priority boarding;
- access to preferred seats.

Final remarks

In case if you have any questions regarding the new partnership, please post your question. I will see if FB can answer the questions where possible.

Best regards,

Gajan

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...utch-airlines/

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-...-airlines.html

Last edited by Gajan; Dec 9, 2019 at 7:20 am Reason: New information
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:20 am
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Is it also the other way around?

As a Flying Blue member we can earn miles and XP from Qantas flight?


Source in French says yes but not sure about that: https://investir.lesechos.fr/actions...as-1884944.php
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:27 am
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Reciprocal lounge access isn't listed for Gold and above traveling in coach on international itineraries.
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by AurelAF96
Is it also the other way around?

As a Flying Blue member we can earn miles and XP from Qantas flight?
Yes, see above and now on the French version of the FB website (not appearing on the list of partnres on the other country versions yet, but the Qantas page is available on other country version websites too):
https://www.flyingblue.fr/en/partner...s/presentation
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Reciprocal lounge access isn't listed for Gold and above traveling in coach on international itineraries.
Any QFF members finding themselves in an AF or KL lounge are likely to be shocked at what they find!!!!
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
Yes, see above and now on the French version of the FB website (not appearing on the list of partnres on the other country versions yet, but the Qantas page is available on other country version websites too):
https://www.flyingblue.fr/en/partner...s/presentation
Yes just saw that after my post ahah

But did someone in this forum told that all FB partners (expect Transavia) can give you XP?
MH,JL,WS and now QF all give XP
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by AurelAF96
But did someone in this forum told that all FB partners (expect Transavia) can give you XP?
Yes, it's been like this for a few months now (the title of the thread is misleading/obsolete)....

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...-airlines.html

https://www.flyingblue.nl/en/news/xp-scope-changes
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
Yes, it's been like this for a few months now (the title of the thread is misleading/obsolete)....

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-...-airlines.html

https://www.flyingblue.nl/en/news/xp-scope-changes
Once again saw the thread after my post, but nevertheless thanks for the answer
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 11:43 am
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as long as I can't get on a cheap Y to the lounge with my FF card...not seeing much that would be a benefit for me..
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by 747jetter
as long as I can't get on a cheap Y to the lounge with my FF card...not seeing much that would be a benefit for me..
Given that you are BA silver, you could gain access to the lounge using your BA card and yet earn XPs to your FB account. What's not to like in having additional options like this?
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 11:55 am
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QF -AF/KLM code sharing was announced July 2018
This announcement is an extension of that

Air France - QANTAS resumes codeshare partnership from July 2018
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 12:57 pm
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I like charts so here are some from Pointsfromthepacific:

One important thing to know is that sadly, you will be unable to use your Qantas points for first redemptions on Air France as they only allow their top elite members to book these flights.



And here are the benefits for KLM flights for Qantas elites:



And here are the benefits for elites for flights operated by Air France:

To find out exactly what youll earn for the AF/KLM flights, use the calculator here and to find exactly how many points youll need for a redemption, use this calculator.
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 5:39 pm
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Excellent news, although the lack of reciprocal lounge access is a disappointment.
But there is more than that in the todays announcement
- BKK will join SIN and HKG as connecting point between CDG/AMS and Oz routes. So, BKK flights will be also code-shared
- there will be a code-share agreement with JetStar to cover some routes from SIN to Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Thailand, Myanmar and Indonesia. Also from DPS to Oz (to connect to/from the KL flight to DPS).

https://www.airfranceklm.com/en/air-...n-qantas-group
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Do you need to be on a code share flight to accrue miles and XP? From what I read, I dont think you have to. I lives in SFO, so I should be able to fly Qanta to Sydney and credit my flight to FB and gain miles and XP. Isnt that correct?
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Old Dec 9, 2019, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Alinsfca
Do you need to be on a code share flight to accrue miles and XP? From what I read, I don’t think you have to. I lives in SFO, so I should be able to fly Qanta to Sydney and credit my flight to FB and gain miles and XP. Isn’t that correct?
No codeshare. QF native probably for ff miles, but no status earn, assuming is going to be the reciprocal of QF on KLM/AF
But would need confirmation.

From the other side:- QF freq flyers earning on KLM/AF native flights.
Earn QF ff points (~miles) but no earn for status.
That's the same as QF flyers on EK flights (EK flight number EK operated)
Link--> https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...r-partnerships
Earning Qantas Points on Air France, KLM

Until now, Qantas Frequent Flyer members could only earn Qantas Points with Air France and KLM when travelling on a Qantas (QF) codeshare flight number.

While that’s still possible, travellers can also now earn Qantas Points – but not status credits – on all paid fare types on all Air France and KLM flights globally, being those with AF and KL flight numbers. The number of points earned will depend on the type of fare purchased and the distance of the flight.
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Guessing QF operated KLM marketed [=codeshare] will earn for KLM/AF status. But needs confirmation
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